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The Raptors are a one sided machine that can't do anything more than go in a straight line. The most god awful, uncomfortable quad I have ever sat on.

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I don't really like the Raptors, any of them, but I don't think they are a bad machine, just not my cup of tea. The 660 and 700 are a bit awkward at first if you aren't used to how high they sit, but you get used to it. I have ridden plenty of them, while I still don't prefer one, I can still have a blast on one. They handle well, they do have alot of power, it's just so smooth it's deceptive. The motor isn't racy so you don't feel the pull as much IMO, but before you know it, you're hauling ass. I tend to prefer the 450's because of the racier motors and they "feel" faster to me, more of a rush. Plus, they are more nimble and race oriented. For the record, I am sure that the 700xx is a great machine, it is no coincidence that it has one so many desert races, but my money would be on the Raptor in a drag race, stock vs. stock. The motors are probably comparable in power, but the Honda is just a little too heavy to win if both riders are of equall skill. Of course, I can't say for sure, because I have never ridden a 700xx. I have seen some great prices on them though, dealer by my is selling one for $4700.

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The Raptors are a one sided machine that can't do anything more than go in a straight line. The most god awful, uncomfortable quad I have ever sat on.

then u dont know how to ride them.....cause im everywhere on mine

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In no way shape or form is the 700 a nimble machine that excells in tight conditions. They are only good for open spaces.

If the Raptor is so much better than the Honda, where are all the Raptor's big race trophies? When is the last time that Yamaha brought home a Baja 1000 win?

The Raptor is too big for tight trail riding(just look how many do good in GNCC, I've never seen one) And it can't touch Honda in desert racing(the only racing I care about)

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I respectfully disagree, while I don't find the Raptor to be as nimble as any 450, I do think that they make an excellent trail machine. Mostly because of the massive torque curve that makes it easy to lug the motor in tight conditions and not have to shift as much. Keep in mind, this opinion comes from someone that rides an LT-R primarily in the woods, and atmosphere for which it is definately not best suited. Also keep in mind, I don't like Raptors much at all, but I think they are a good machine, however I also believe overrated and just not my personal preference.

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"...f**k honda its all about raptor 700r..."

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I have nothing against the raptor, I made those comments in response to the above brilliant statement... It is comments like that, that give Raptor owners a bad name. Just as bad as Can Am owners

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Wow, Foolio, I must say that was completely inappropriate (yes, I can go in and read the deleted post), and for the record, you definately stepped out of line first with your "f**k Honda it's all about the Raptor 700R" comment. Which, by the way only supports Stoopidbots theory about Raptor owners. This thread was not started for the purpose of brand bashing or making malicious insults toward people. Someone simply wanted some input because they were trying to decide what kind of machine they want to buy. There is never any need to be like that man, we are all here for the same reason, we all share a common hobby, lets not make enemies out of a silly difference in preference.

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this is my first post and i might hurt someones feelings....but first i want to know how you can even compare the two...i have both...i use the raptor for the dunes as it pulls like a damn beast...the 450 is for the track/trails.....they are both great quads and cantgo wrong...as for the 700xx..i have seen one, and i had my 450 it was in the woods...and the 700xx couldnt hang for sh&&*....but then again i dont see how that is good for the woods....not to sure on that quad...on a straight away that thing is fast...im not to sure if it could beat my raptor stock for stock....i know that he didnt beat my 450...so not to sure what else to say

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Welcome Ramguy, the rider has A LOT to do with how the machine performs. With 2 equal riders the 700xx can barely take the 700R. But it takes more than just the 3 mods on the Honda to keep up with a 3 mod Raptor.

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I do agree that the rider has alot to do with it....I must also say that by the time I am done with my 450 it will smoke the crap out of my raptor....mainly because I'm going to fix the 450 up first, it is alot cheaper and I ride more woods/track then I get to ride dunes, I'm still sticking with you can't go wrong with either quad......

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I think it depends on how you plan on using it (at least most of the time( in general however i would rather have the 450.

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That is a good way of putting it avidrider, that is why i think i have the best of both worlds...love the overall power of the raptor in the dunes....love the way the 450 handles everywhere else.....

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