Blue_Death

So who ever has the balls to put down some $ on their stock XX I will go get a stock raptor and we will take it to a strip and switch riders...

Or if you wanna do it for fun thats cool to

Yeah, with the right gearing and mods! But in stock trim! Every quad has it's spot... XX: showroom floor... 700R: dunes & trails... 450's: track...

Also same tires VS same tires one atv (If it weighs more) will be affected differently. IT COULD be for better or worse... Heavy would hook up on dirt better and get out quicker? BUT On concrete that is 100% flat AKA a good drag strip is the TRUE test.

Stock for stock i think a raptor would be a bit faster then a honda 450r, but any of the other 450's like the new YFZ450R and the LTR450 would beat the crap out of a raptor stock vs stock. And also, the 700XX would be MUCH better then a raptor on trails because of the IRS, so it would be a much smoother ride.

Stock vs stock on what? This is stupid... Are we talking sand, dirt, uphill, downhill or concrete WTF?

The only way a 700XX would beat a 700 raptor (Both stock) would be down a steep hill were the EXTRA 90 LBS would come in on the XX... So if you ride downhill all the time hmm might be a good choice..

Like my grandpa always said... "When I was a kid we walked to school uphill in 4 foot of snow both ways" Thats BS And we all know that we don't ride downhill all the time.

Hmm, I would think the Raptor would be easier to manuver in tight trails, due to reverse, and it is physicaly smaller...

You can also whip it around trees easier....

This thread is getting ridiculous.. Who even cares what a top speed of a stock quad is? If you really want top speed your not going to keep it stock ether are you? And also i have heard actually quite a few people say raptors can hit around 82 stock..

I much prefer acceleration/handling over top speed...

But if we are comparing top speed of the raptor/XX I know the raptor will go 82 in the conditions I stated above. Far as handling/jumping I can't compare.

Drag racing on the other hand...

Let me guess. You paced it with a car?

No, I find that very inaccurate...

BS. Prove it. You are the first person I have ever heard claim this. No they wont. You can talk till you are blue in the face. You are a liar.

I guess there is no way to prove it but a 100% stock raptor with the right air pressure in the tires on concrete 100% flat surface...

Awesome!!!!!! Where you at?

Look behind you

Do you have one of those HDD 5050 cams? What kindof clutch of do you have?

I don't talk about my cams... I run a HD lockup clutch.

Wow, sounds fast... where are you from in MI? We should ride sometime!?!?!?! You ever get up to St. Helen, Roscommon area?

Yes, I tour around all over MI... Yes, That would be cool you should ride my project bike so you can keep up...

Hmm, ^ Raptor guy? Cool Avatar?

Yes, And thank you...

I loved the raptors from the start. And became abscessed with them once after market companies started manufacturing parts for them.

People fail to realize that the XX was the fastest production quad in 09 @ 77 mph.

^ Really? Thats weird... Considering the 700R (Stock) On a concrete drag strip @ 2000FT will go 82...