i would say both the KTM and the Can Am kick as*. they are both set up pretty good stock. i think im goin to go with the Can Am cuz i know a lot of people at the barneys dealer in brandon, fl and they dont have KTM there. my buddy and i are also starting a race team and barneys has agreed to help out with prices on parts and any repairs we will need so i think the Can Am is probably the best choice for me. if not the Can Am, which do yall like most for the 450s as far as Can Am, kawasaki, honda, and suzuki?