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12 minutes ago, Frank Angerano said:

Yes that relay needs power to close and need to get it from someplace. So when you grounded the neutral safety switch and reverse wires and lights came on the starter button did not make the starter relay click ? 

Yes, when grounded lights came on but button didnt engage starter. And there is no power coming from red and white wire.

I didnt reconnect them yet, but I will once I can get it to crank. Believe you wanted me to jump blue w/ white and red w/ white? I did that and nothing happened.

Red with white should have 12v correct? If yes, than that explains why nothing happened when I jumped them. 

8 hours ago, Frank Angerano said:

Ok so you may have a bad starter as well with the other things.  
First thing i would do is reconnect the neutral safety switch and reverse wires. 
Take a tester and put it on the wire going to the starter.  Jump the coil again and see if you get voltage at the starter.  If so the starter has either bad brushes or its no good.   You may be able to pull the starter out and clean and bench test it.  
 

As far as the 12v going to the starter relay thats a good thing.
The starter circuit relay is the next plug you see by the starter relay.   I circled in yellow. 
After you reconnected the neutral safety switch and reverse wires i want you to take a tester and see what you have on that plug as far as power goes.  See if any of the wires have power with the key on.   If any have power let me know.  
Then set your tester to continuity and see if any of the wires have continuity from the negative terminal on the battery to any of the wires in that plug.  What im trying to see is if any of the wires going to that plug have a ground source.  

Grounded both neutral and reverse wires. Got both light to light up. Checked for 12v on the wires going into started circuit relay (circled in yellow) no power was detected. The other 3 wires had continuity to negative post on battery. 

I connected 12v with test light to red/w white stripe wire and the relay buzzes al over the place, but to cranking from starter. 

7 hours ago, Frank Angerano said:

Ok so you may have a bad starter as well with the other things.  
First thing i would do is reconnect the neutral safety switch and reverse wires. 
Take a tester and put it on the wire going to the starter.  Jump the coil again and see if you get voltage at the starter.  If so the starter has either bad brushes or its no good.   You may be able to pull the starter out and clean and bench test it.  
 

As far as the 12v going to the starter relay thats a good thing.
The starter circuit relay is the next plug you see by the starter relay.   I circled in yellow. 
After you reconnected the neutral safety switch and reverse wires i want you to take a tester and see what you have on that plug as far as power goes.  See if any of the wires have power with the key on.   If any have power let me know.  
Then set your tester to continuity and see if any of the wires have continuity from the negative terminal on the battery to any of the wires in that plug.  What im trying to see is if any of the wires going to that plug have a ground source.  

Grounded both neutral and reverse wires. Got both light to light up. Checked for 12v on the wires going into started circuit relay (circled in yellow) no power was detected. The other 3 wires had continuity to negative post on battery. 

I connected 12v with test light to red/w white stripe wire and the relay buzzes al over the place, but to cranking from starter. 

I will do all that later today. I can say that I put 12v directly to starter with jumper cables and it does start the machine.

Yep, jumped them together. They did spark, but no cranking. I put a test light on the positive and negative bolts on that relay and it lite up. battery is ok, also is connected to a trickle charger too.

This time when I pulled started it, the tail light came on for a short time.....

Jumped them, no crank. The orange wire has 12 volts.

The one with the wire is reverse light, which doesnt light either, other is neutral light that I pulled the wire off of. I only see 1 wire going to each switch

Were at did you cire those wires at? I didnt see anything circled other than a few posts ago. I'm fairly decent with tester. I have meter's and test lights to use.

First pick is of the wire that went to neutral switch, there was only one wire going to it. The other pics are of the relays in the battery box.

Frank, I did have a bayou before and loved it. I actually did try grounding the green wire, but still no start. Is there a way to bypass the starter cut off relay to see if the button actually works? I'm working on this for a friend of mine. My current bike is a CFMOTO 800xc.

I have the wiring schematic myself, but I get confused on the whole electrical stuff.

Thank you. How do I test to see if natural switch is good? The green wire that connects to it was torn off, but when I hold it on the switch, the light still doesnt come on and switch doeant engage starter. Starter is proven good, cause it will start quad when its given 12 volts directly from battery. Also headlights dont work, but havent checked bulbs yet either.

Forgot to mention, both 30 amp fuses in battery box are good.

All the relays I see are plastic too

Machine has several issues. I started bye adjusting valves and pilot screw due to only running on choke and high idle without choke. 

After looking at neutral switch, I discovered there are NO wires coming from it nor do I see any around it. Were are the wires supposed to go that are missing?

Headlights do not come on, but bulbs may be bad, not sure yet.

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