Hey guys I appreciate your responses but its a trials atv, kinda of like a trials motorcycle, not an atv trail. On the trail note, here in colorado we have alot of wooded areas but we have little to no areas that atv riders can atempt some of these time trials events. I haven't been to the carolinas in a long time but if atv riders had an area that they could atempt some of these difficult and precise manuevers would be outstanding. Part of my presentation is going to be the integration of the everyday rider and the trials riders with perfect balance. I am going to do this by providing a machine that can perform on a similar level as the trials motorcycle, but remove the difficulty of maintaining absolute and complete balance. Obviously everyone wishes they had the balance and equalibrium of these trials riders but physically most people can't do it. Thats why a vehicle with some of these capabilities has a niche in the market place.