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There is a station here in Arkansas that has 87 octane, non alcohol gas. But other gas stations have 91 or 92 octane non alcohol "premium", Whatever that means. I always use no alcohol gas, regardless of octane, in all my mowers, atv, motorcycle, generator, etc.

The pump does run for a few seconds every time the key is turned on. In this case I just discussed, the pump ran it's usual time until fully pressurized when they key was turned on. Then depressed the start button and the engine turned over a few times, started then stopped and no hum from the fuel pump so I'm assuming sufficient pressure remaining in the system? Then turned the key off then back on and the fuel pump ran again for normal time so I'm assuming the relay is ok.

Well......still working with the long crank issue. The other day after not running the Cforce for a few days, it exhibited the same issue by taking a few seconds of continuous cranking and did start/run for maybe two seconds but died almost as quick. With the key still on I did not hear the fuel pump run, so turned the key off then immediately back on and pressed the start button then the engine fired and ran normally. This old girl sure likes the attention. Hmmm, maybe a long crank is ok in some instances?

I really don't think it does as this system is fuel injected, for which I presume the pressurized fuel line feeds directly to the fuel injector. I see your point that a fuel bowl will go dry over time, from evaporation or leakage then take longer to refill?

Yes, your right, I will be more diligent with attention to equipment maintenance.

Yes, I think your onto something that needs my followup

Maybe your right, I was grunting pretty good to get them into and out of the trailer but was manageable.

Thought you'd get aroused over the well endowed comment! But the honda foreman is a great machine and worth those big dollars.

Jen, I have no idea of the wt limit or actual wt on that hitch. I think there was quite a bit of weight as that wood was still green and heavy. I ran three loads about a quarter mile down the road where a neighbor had cleared out a bunch of trees for construction building. Now will start splitting the logs, removing bark and stacking for drying to burn maybe ,3-4 yrs out.

No issues after restarting, runs well. Even after a couple days it starts/runs ok. The long start issue comes on only after extended sitting over two weeks. Of course I always keep a battery maintainer connected.

It is fuel injected so not sure how automatic choke action works. Incidentally the atv starts fine after sitting for a day or two in freezing yeps, but the long crank issue happens when not being started for maybe a month. Maybe should buy a Honda like Jen's?

I did replace the cforce fuel pump, a very easy 20 min job. This replacement pump had a decided 'howl' but still ran fine with adequate fuel pressure, no difference in startability or run. Soooo, put original pump back in and returned the new pump for refund. Anyway, I'm really impressed with the power and utility these ATVs bring. Been chainsawing & hauling wood in to spilt for winter wood pile stock. Not that I'm sold on the Chinese cforce, but was handy to buy from neighbor a while back, very reliable. However, if I were so well endowed as JEN then I would have bought a Honda Foreman!

I just backed down the weights to 12 grams because I noted a decided hard to shift occurrence when trying to reverse shift on hill. I gathered that I had achieved a desirable 1800-2000 rpm engagement with the 18 gram wts but obviously too close to idle rpm with some drag on shift at times. Now engagement rpm is about 2200 and smooth gear shifting so OK.

Maybe someone has the answer to correct a long cranking but did start after maybe 10 seconds? Temp was mid 70's, with ATV not run for maybe a month but on battery maintainer with full bat charge noted. The atv started, but then died a couple times after repeated attempts. But when run awhile everything was ok. Although when starting now I do hear the fuel pump humming but seems to take a few ,"long" seconds before full prime pressure. Is this typical of a failing fuel pump? I've priced a replacement fuel pump on eBay for less than $40 so am tempted to simply replace it for good PM. Just had all covers off so looks really easy to replace. Any ideas?

I see a real value in that type of mower for tough brush and saplings. I have a few acres in Arkansas along the Ouatchita river within which I have been working to create atv trails. So far I have used a JD garden tractor to simply run thru this heavy growth, but those 1" saplings sure are hard on the blades and spindles. Of course the chain saw and DeWalt reciprotating saw have worked too, but I sure hate looking for snakes, spiders, ticks and chiggers (which invariably get me. I've seen some brush hog attachments for the atv but they are spendy.