What kind

[Stoopidbot1]

What is your favorite kind of racing and why?

I really enjoy desert racing, or way point racing. This is the kind of riding I grew up doing. There is nothing like the feeling you get after finishing a 100 mile race. When you are out there it is you and the desert. You might find one line that you can hit 5 gear wide open, then the next turn you pick one that is 1st gear crawling through rocks. There is no groomed or marked track. You go however you want as long as you hit all the check points in order. I grew up in the desert so that's what I know. Now that I'm living in the mountains and woods I'm alot more interested in GNCC stuff. Lamo's don't have any racing circuits in Colorado.

[wheeler0801]

I'm torn. I love MX and Harescramble racing equally...

MX: When you're jumping those killer doubles, or even tabletops, and you catch so much air, you get this feeling of freedom....and confidence, like hell yeah I jumped and landed that. Plus, people see the entire race from start to end....you get a lot of support that way...butt if you mess up, and crash, they all see that too.....which, actually if you need an ambulance, it's better to wreck in mx than gncc...

Harescrambles: The start doesn't really matter...you can have the worst start ever, but the race is atleast an hour and a half long, and people are bound to hit trees, get stuck in the mud, blow a tire, break parts..get tired and slow down...so you can usually catch up if everything goes smooth for you...the downside is, you're running 8-14 mile laps, and you hardly ever see people. And when you do see people, you get this little bit of juice in your bones and you sometimes make mistakes trying to show your skills.....not that that's ever happened to me or anything:biggrin:

[trailblazer_02]

idk rele what kind of racing it is...or even if they have it?

but like an open class...any kind of quad....woods racing?

idk that would be cool..

like you could custom build a bike?

idk

it would be cool.

[wheeler0801]

idk rele what kind of racing it is...or even if they have it?

but like an open class...any kind of quad....woods racing?

idk that would be cool..

like you could custom build a bike?

idk

it would be cool.

What I think you're getting at is harescramble racing....the main series is the GNCC series...but nearly every state/region of the US has a series....we've raced the Mid-South Series here in TN, they race in TN, KY, IN, IL, AL areas...in May we'll start racin the WNYOA series in NY, most races are in NY, but some are in PA too.

As far as classes in harescrambles, you can race any size quad in any class...most are 400ex's or 450's....some people have 300ex's or the Raptors, but most series have an age requirement of 16 years, so most quads are the bigger cc models....and the races take place in the woods, some have good field sections too, but mostly you're in the woods for 1 1/2 -2 hours....

does that help?

[Stoopidbot1]

Great info Wheeler!

[trailblazer_02]

like, you could throw a 400ex with one of those xr650 motors in there?

if so

SICKKKK

i might have to get into that later in life.

[wheeler0801]

I don't see who would care. They do make you put the number of cc's your motor is on the ticket that you sign up with...and they use the same ticket for all AMA sanctioned events, so, I'm not sure if there is a requirement as far as how big a motor can be...I'll see if I can find that out for you, but, the only thing they really test for at the race is the sound/noise that your exhaust puts off. If it's too loud, they'll sit you out races until you get it quieter...

**goin to search for the motor stuff now**

[trailblazer_02]

ah you diddnt have to..

i was just a little curious..

but for all the utv stuff me and bot got you.

you kinda do owe us

[wheeler0801]

Ok....straight from the GNCC website: The New GNCC Racing Online

B. ATV

1. Production Rule: OEM motor and matching frame combination model. Frame geometry must remain as designed by the OEM, including all suspension pivot points. Engine modifications, frame reinforcements, and aftermarket A-arms, swing-arms and suspension are permitted. AMA homologation required, i.e., 100 identical machines available.

2. Sport (15+): (201-400cc) 2-wheel drive production models. Modifications are permitted. No engine displacement reduction permitted.

3. 4x4 Open: (501-840cc) 4-wheel or 2-wheel drive shaft or chain driven automatic transmission/clutch production models that come with rack or rack availability as standard equipment.

4. 4x4 Lites: (201-500cc) 4-wheel or 2-wheel drive shaft or chain driven automatic transmission/clutch production models that come with rack or rack availability as standard equipment.

5. 4x4 Limited: (201-840cc) 4-wheel or 2-wheel drive shaft or chain-driven automatic transmission/clutch production models that come with rack or rack availability as standard equipment.

The following limited items cannot be changed or added:

Internal or external motor components; exhaust system; clutch; steering stem; steering stabilizer; reservoirs; fuel tank; quick fuel system; tire balls. Motor and power output must remain as the factory intended. Front shocks and front/rear springs can be changed; reservoirs cannot be added; rear shocks cannot be changed. No other suspension or steering components may be changed.

6. U2: (201-840cc) 4-wheel or 2-wheel drive shaft or chain-driven automatic transmission/clutch production models that do not have rack or rack availability as standard equipment, i.e., Wolverine, Renegade, Scrambler, V-Force.

7. Schoolboy (13-15): (91-200cc 2-strk; 91-300cc 4-strk) production models. No engine displacement reduction permitted.

8. Super Mini (13-15): (70-105cc 2-strk; 75-150cc 4-strk) production models. Manual and automatic clutch models eligible. Cobra models are restricted to this class.

9. 90 Limited: (71-90cc 2-strk; 75-125cc 4-strk) production models. The following may be changed: tires (but no tire balls), wheels (cannot change stock width), pipe, sprockets, gearing, clutch, twist throttle, handlebars, grips, handle bar pads, front bumper, rear grab bar, air filter and jetting. Fenders may be trimmed. No other modifications allowed INCLUDING carburetors, oil injection, air box and lid, gas tank, wheelbase, width, rear axle, A-arm, shocks and suspension. Manual clutch models are not eligible and cannot be converted to auto clutch.