Tagels

Had a great day riding at valley dirt riders MX in Berthoud yesterday with my dad and stoopidbot and a few of his friends, the track conditions were near as good as they could get so it was a lot of fun! I got quite a few pictures as well

Even when i dont crash its pretty abusive! Especially track riding..

For me and my family its usually the gas to drive the quads to wherever we are going to ride that gets us, Driving to the track which is almost 60 miles round trip is way more gas then our quads and bikes use riding for 2 hours.

I usually switch off between firefox and chrome, i normally use firefox but this last update made it really buggy and it seems to like to freeze a lot for no reason. So now im using the latest version of chrome.

But it all reality PEP, motowoz, Axis and Fox will probably all be about the same and you most likely wont be able to tell much of a difference between them if you compared them..

^ YES I DO!!

< Wants to go ride again already

v Doesn't ride a honda

Well you may want to make it wider with a-arms and an axle, although if you ride on tight trails that wouldn't be a good idea so that depends on what you do.

And then you can ether get some 450r shocks which will fit from what i have heard with just slight modification, and then get the 450r shocks and the stock rear shock re built and re valved buy a suspension company

Or you could go with afermarket shocks like fox, motowoz, axis, ect but not elka, most people will tell you that elkas aren't that great and i would agree with them..

Yeah, suspension would make the biggest difference then.

Depends... If you ride in smooth places where you dont use suspension then go for motor work, but if you go over any bumps at all the 400ex's suspension desperately needs upgrading so i would do that..

^ Just bought his bike and modded the crap outa it.. And already wants to sell it?

< Wow this thread is taking off!

v Isn't listening to music like i am.

^ Wrong, tagels is posting before the next person.

< Is tired.. Back from the track, where i feel pathetically slow compared to all those MX bike guys.

v Is a ho** (jk!)

Its pretty simple.. ^ means the person above you, (person who posted right before you) And you just say something random about that person or what they said, then < means you, you say something about yourself or whatever, then V is the person who will post after you and you say some random prediction or whatever about them and what they might say. Its pretty confusing at first but everyone should get it soon!

You dont get it?

^ Should buy a raptor 700 if he wants one so bad

< People should start getting this soon.. Hopefully

v Will probably be Rappy97 because me and him are the only people that know how this works

^ Agreed

< This is so simple.. People on the 450 forums dont have a problem figuring it out!

v Needs to keep this thread going.

Idk, In my opinion they aren't better, they are different. Plus i bet a lot of people dont like IRS so they buy the raptor

I think its because they have only been out since what 2008? Where as the raptor has been out since 2006 and then the 660 was out for a while before that so people already new about it and what not. Its the same thing with the KFX450, it has only been out since 2008 and not many people have them because of that but its still a great quad.

I started on a Honda XR100 bike, then went to a Kawasaki KX80 pinger bike, and now i'm back on honda's but i really prefer Kawasaki's. I don't know why but Kawasaki atv's and motocross bikes have always felt better to me, even just sitting on a KFX450 it feels so much more like it fits me then my TRX450r and i would have bought one if i had the money.. But $3500 min for one was to much at the time. Hopefully in the future i will get one though!

OR we could stop arguing about which one is faster in a drag because that is almost pointless unless ALL you do is drag race. Also i never said the 700XX would beat a raptor, i seriously have no idea which one would win.

Yeah, with the right gearing and mods! But in stock trim! Every quad has it's spot... XX: showroom floor... 700R: dunes & trails... 450's: track...

Stock for stock i think a raptor would be a bit faster then a honda 450r, but any of the other 450's like the new YFZ450R and the LTR450 would beat the crap out of a raptor stock vs stock. And also, the 700XX would be MUCH better then a raptor on trails because of the IRS, so it would be a much smoother ride.

Pete... I hate to say it again... Raptors are faster and have more technology than DS650's.

QuadNut... You must be talking Raptor 90's, 125's, 250's, and 350's then right?

No im pretty sure hes talking about the raptor 700, which depending on the mods on both machines a 450 may or may not beat easily, but a 450 definitely can beat a 700.

This thread is getting ridiculous.. Who even cares what a top speed of a stock quad is? If you really want top speed your not going to keep it stock ether are you? And also i have heard actually quite a few people say raptors can hit around 82 stock..

You know comparing a IRS atv to a solid axle atv is kinda stupid anyway, they are whole different machines. Get the xx if you ride trails, get the raptor if you ride dunes, if you race they are probably about the same (Not that great compared to a 450) Simple as that

Well for the record i have never seen a raptor 700 at any kind of mx or scrambles track ether...

I also heard a rumor that they are talking about having the next race at VDR in Berthoud

Having it at VDR would be awesome! I think thats a great idea