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Okay, keep drinking the kool-aid We have some friends who are missionaries and are on total lockdown and have been since day one. If you are caught without a mask automatic $500 fine. Google the outbreak there and tell me how effective the mask is.

So my question is where did the flu go? It seemed to up and vanish like a fart in the wind? How many people "used" to die from the flu every year? And wasn't the flu also dangerous for older people as well? I think this guy has an interesting perspective. https://www.bitchute.com/video/hfzL5gUeQvxr/

GrizzlyRider thanks, it was a great time! We are finding each time we go out we enjoy it more than the time before. When we get to explore a new area and find another beautiful view we wish more and more that we would've started years ago. The enjoyment level of this hobby/sport just continues to grow for my wife and I, It is great that she is growing in both confidence and experience. When we find these areas, all we want to do is take people back there and share it. So jwline let me know when you want to check that off of the bucket list, I am always looking for an excuse to get out and this is a standing offer of you ever make it out our way. Thanks for commenting on my pics you guys.

Hey Akunin, been a while. Sorry we werent able to link up last November when we were down in Rapid. Wasn't much of a pleasure trip. We had to go down and move the inlaws out of their house, was not a pleasant ordeal. Went from 5500 sq. ft to about 950. Spent 8 days there getting things packed up, a few home repairs, a little plumbing. Hadn't a minute to ourselves, we were ready to get home that's for sure. Saw you bumped this thread I'll add a bit to it. We took our first ride of 2021, it ended up being the same place as last year, took a bit of a different route but went out about 2 1/2 weeks ago officially making it the earliest we have ever been out. It was a great day, was about 32 degrees when we started but warmed to about 70 as a high. Was an interesting ride, I didnt expect as much snow as we ran into. Some of the trails we went on were labeled Black diamond, have been on them before but being's they are nestled in the trees, many were solid ice making the decent on some of them way more technical than what I'm normally used to. Planning how to maneuver a turn when corners are sharp and dry is one thing, planning how your going slide around it without flying off the edges is another. Made for an exciting but tiring day. My Maxxis Bighorn 2.0 tires performed flawlessly. Since I was the designated leader I also doubled as the Guinea pig, made several walking trips back up the hill to guide others down and to ride my wife's machine down through several tricky areas. Was some of the best riding I've had to date, just had to think clearly and be careful. We stopped at a spot called "The Lunchroom" an area between these big slabs of rock with a couple of rudimentary tables to eat lunch. Am growing more fond of this area each time we ride it. Rode from about 9 until 4:30, with the slippery trails that was plenty. Got home about 5:30 spent 4 1/2 hours cleaning up the machines. Looking forward to the next ride.

Airborne, that's cool! Not very many understanding folks around these days. Grew up in Manhattan, a town of about 1500, ten miles away from where I live now. It's not 1500 people anymore. The main city in our area is Bozeman, Belgrade, (where I live now)was 10 miles away and about 2000 people, another 10 miles Manhattan, another 10 miles Three Forks. Three Forks was about the same size as Manhattan, 1500 or so. It is Headwaters of the Missouri River which runs into the Mississippi. 3 different rivers come together hence the name Three Forks. Anyway, all of these towns were quiet communities and stretch across a beautiful valley that's about 35 miles long and about the same wide. When I was in high school Bozeman was 19,000 people, it's a state college town and had about 8000 students. Fast forward 40 years to today. Bozeman itself is about 60,000 and has 17,000 students (pre Covid) and is almost joined to Belgrade. Belgrade is about 13,000 people. Manhattan is about 6,000 people and Three Forks about 4,000. Figure there's about 160,000 in the valley now. All of that to say, as a kid, there were farmers and ranchers that would let us ride their thousands of acres of property because we were responsible and respectful. We just loved being out and weren't out to destroy anything or tear anything up. As they passed away and their kids sold off land, developers and wealthy out of staters bought their "piece of heaven" and closed everything down. Great to hear you talked with those kids and showed understanding and kindness. Like I said not very many understanding folks these days. Hopefully they will continue to be responsible and respect. We may not have the private sector to ride anymore but have outstanding forest service trail access so very thankful for that. It seems that even with the influx of people there's not a lot of them that are heavy into ATV's at least in our valley. Hardly see or hear anyone when we're out.😁

Quad, I hope this is something I can do for a long time. I just hope the folks moving in here don't ruin it for everyone. Someone always seems to get a bee under their bonnet and whine and cry about something and get things changed. Always amazing how the voices of a few are so loud and drown out the voice of reason. Like I told jwline, make your way here and I'll take you out. I know that's easy for me to say, there's a lot of different places I'd like to get to someday as well. Takes time, money, and a lot of planning. Yeah the pics Come out pretty good sometimes, not bad for an S9 phone camera LOL😉 Pretty bummed out about this years riding s season, was very short for my wife and I, I think we only made it out 5 or 6 times. Life was just too busy this year, and winter came really fast and early. We've already had 12" of snow on the valley floor, most trails are closed and temps have dipped to -20.🥶🙄 Crazy, set a bunch of record lows around here, this global warming is killing us. Supposed to be high 40's low 50's by weeks end. There is one area that stays open most of the year might be able to sneak one more in but wont be any too warm.

I would be out also, this year sucked for ride time, toooooo busy. I think we only made it out 5 for six times. Pathethic! I can tell you one thing, if you ever made it this direction I would make sure to take you out, as lon as it wasn't during the 4th of July, we have some amazing trails that I never get tired of riding. What do you ride? We have a couple of Can Am 570 Max's. We chose the two up machine so we can stay legal if we ride double. So we can also take other couples out with us if they don't have a machine. Make your way up here and I'll get you out.😉

jwline, this is a great area, our riding is the only thing that gets us away from all the people that have moved in. Even then you have to fight your way to get past the hiking trail traffic. But once out we see no one and it is absolutely awesome.

The only bummer part of where we live as we have such a short Riding season. Our trails open June 16th and close around October 16th, depending on the area. Some stay open till Dec 1st, they close them down for a couple reasons, safety and so they don't get torn to shreds. We do have one area that stays open most if the year that is BLM/Forest Service area. That is an hours drive. It does get to a point that trails are impassable due to snow, but parts of it are usable almost year round. Only problem is temperatures are pretty miserable to be out during the Winter . We do on occasion have stretches of 0 to -30 for weeks at a time. Don't care how you dress not that pleasant to be out.🥶😁. The area is more high desert then transitions into the forest. Great area but heavily used in the summer. This ride was the earliest ride we've ever taken, it was in May.

Hey John, It really is a great place, we are so spoiled. Most of these trail heads are within 30 minutes of my house. The Forest Service does an amazing job of keeping the trails in good shape. We do have a few that are an hours drive but for the most part 30 minutes and we are unloading. We live in south west Montana in the Bozeman area. Where are you located?

Where's the pics of where you ride? I ride in the mountains, and mostly 50" 2-track trails. Mostly what's available here. Always thought it would be fun to ride some dunes but don't have the right machine for that. Then I hear the horror stories and see the accident videos and think no.....probably not. Seems like there's folks who don't think flying off the top of a dune without a spotter is a problem. Parts of it sure look like fun though. Not saying that our mountain trails aren't dangerous, higher speeds dont happen too often due to our steeper winding trails and the possibility of sliding down off the edge. But still enjoy our mountains and exploring new areas. Love to see some pics of your favorites.

Looks like great country to ride in, and that you are able to get out quite often very envious of that opportunity. Get out when I can. This particular ride was sun afternoon/evening sunset ride.

Maintenance Maintenance Maintenance! When you buy used, change or have the fluids changed before anything else. Research what your machine uses and how often fluids should be changed, then make sure to use specified fluids for your particular machine. Keep a detailed record of your service, if there are grease zerks make a habit of greasing them. I try to do that after every 3 rides or so, change all fluids at the end of the riding season so they are ready to go before I take them out in the spring. Take care of them and they will take care of you.

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Well after half a season of riding the 2018 570 Outlander my wife and I decided to pull the trigger on another Can Am. We have thoroughly enjoyed our new 2018 machine, it rides and drives like a dream but still lacks the 2-up stability and legality of the a true blue factory 2-up machine. So searched Craigslist and found another great machine, this time in Colorado. Turned out it was only 12 miles from my brothers house so he went over and looked at it for me and gave me the low down, we decided to pull the trigger so he bought it, the guy hauled it to his house. I left on a Saturday afternoon at 4:30 drove straight through to Windsor Colorado and pulled into my brothers at about 1:45 a.m. visited for about 1/2 hour hit the hay, slept for 3 hours got up and loaded up the machine, ate a little breakfast and hit the road. Pulled into my driveway at 4:00 Sunday afternoon. 1285 miles. It is a pretty nice machine, had some monster Sedona Ripsaw tires that had to go, to much rubber, aggression, and weight for me. They were virtually brand new, only about 100 miles on them. Sold the tires for $350, bought another used set of wheels and tires for $200, better looking factory wheel and the tires will get me through this season and probably next as well. Only had 536 miles on it. The guy had bought it for him and his wife to ride then she passed away from cancer so he wanted to continue to ride but his kids were worried about him going out by himself so he sold it and bought a side by side with a roll cage. Have enjoyed it thus far and it seems to be in pretty good shape. Have been out with this couple as much as possible this year, she has stage 4 appendiceal cancer, has been battling it for 4 years and has finally decided to stop with treatments. We are trying to get out with them as much as possible while she still can. Have been some fantastic rides and some beautiful views, We are loving the Can Am's, I have one more Rancher I have to sell but should be an easy sell as it is in great shape and has a Can Am 2-up seat attached as well as a Warn 2000lb winch and a mid frame plow mount.

Finally got my "2-up" seat finished for the Can Am, trails opened up on Saturday but has been raining solid for the last 5 days and that makes for some very dangerous and uncomfortable driving conditions on our mountain trails. Seat turned out pretty well and is easily removed.

Thanks, Always fun to see a thought come to fruition, wasn't exactly sure how it was going to come out but I couldn't let the 2-up seat pass by and not try to put it to use. I had been looking at them on line and they were between $565.00 to $585.00 USD. So when I saw this one on Craigslist for $60 I jumped on it. I bought $20 worth of metal and the welding didn't cost me anything but time. Having a jump seat so to speak made for the Can Am and I'm modifying a backrest from an office chair to mount to the rear rack of the Outlander. When done it will look good and will be easily removable as well. We don't always ride double on our machines and it is nice to be able to take those things off with the least amount of effort. Will post some pics when it is done as well. But for now here is some pics of the New Can Am. I found it on Craigslist as well, it only had 50 miles on it, and still under warranty, The guy got into trouble with his wife for having so many toys, He wanted a new ski boat and she said something had to go so he decided that the brand new 2018 ountlander was the item he would part with. Plus he brought it all the way from Boise Idaho to me, (500miles) saved me 16 hours of drive time. Looking forward to getting out with it, trails open up here on the 16th, hope to have my seat back before th en so I can get my back rest finished up, The upholsterer is doing the back rest as well. My brother brought over his little Suzuki Ozark, this is how my 570 would probably look parked nose to nose with an Outlander 1000😁

I just bought a 2018 Can Am 570 Outlander and was hoping to try to find a way to convert a Can Am 2-up seat that I picked up on Craigslist to my new machine in some fashion. No way to do it without the seat sitting up 8-9 inches above the main seat. Scrapped that Idea but decided to try to convert it to my Honda Rancher. Also in a way that would allow me to remove it quickly and allow access to my battery compartment if necessary. Here's what I came up with. Since the seat has two fork like protrusions on the front underside I needed to come up with something that they would lock into. On rear underside there is a spring loaded handle that allows it to lock onto a 3/8" round bar. I wanted the bar that the front part of the seat locked into to also be removable so I came up with a design for the bar that would slide onto the front side of the rear rack and pin into place using the rack itself as the mounting base. Then I welded a couple pieces of 3/4" pipe to the rear part of the rear rack with a piece of 3/8" solid bar stock onto the front of the two pieces of pipe that were welded to the rear section of the rack. The forks of the seat lock into the front bar, the pipes at the back not only support the rear part of the seat but act as a centering guide for the two locking mechanisms that lock onto the 3/8" bar stock. When it is locked into place it is extremely solid and has no way of coming loose except when I release the spring loaded handle. And it actually doesn't look too bad when installed either. Plus, the front side of the rear seat acts as a back rest for the small of the drivers back, pretty cool.

Honda or Yamaha you can't go wrong, Suzuki or Kawasaki are great machines as well, however I know around our area you are not going to find one that cheap, if you do it's toast and would probably need a total rebuild, I just sold one of my Ranchers (2013) for $4500. I didn't even know how many miles or hours were on it as it was a basic foot shift manual transmission. It was in great shape but they don't go cheap around here.

Well, I ended up getting my Can Am delivered to me on Monday, It was raining when I left the house and snowing when I linked up with the guy to pick it up at his Hotel, we made the exchange of $$$ and machine, received the title and I was on my way. It was truly a blessing to not have to drive the 1000 miles and 16 hours round trip to pick it up. got it home, put it into the garage and cleaned it up from all of the road spray, mounted my front bumper and mirrors that I had pre-ordered and put it to bed for the night. Today I picked up a cargo box for the front rack and got that mounted, I am now in the process of making a seat for the back rack. This is going to take a while to get this accomplished as I have some fabrication to do then will deliver it to the upholstery shop to have it foamed and covered. After that will mount the rear foot rests then tackle the issue with removing and replacing the ridiculous factory hitch. The engineer that came up with that one sure had his head buried somewhere that the sun doesn't shine. Hitch bolts go right through the aluminum housing of the rear differential. Stuuuuuuuupidddddd!!!!! All in all I think it will be a great machine for my wife, she will definitely be more comfortable than I will while we are out riding. Will post pics of my progress. Here are a few to start. In the driveway after picking it up, then a pic of the front bumper, mirrors, and cargo box installation.

Ajmbofter, I should have started here in the first place, thanks for moving it. I'm giving $6100 for it, the guys wife is "making" him get rid of it as he has too many toys and just purchased a brand new ski boat. I'm saving about $2000, everything I've looked at around this area that is used is still about $1000 more than I'm paying. I cam across a 2017 that is identical that has 2500 miles on it and they want $6500 for it. Local dealership is selling it brand new for $8100 so am coming out pretty good I think. I just haven't been around or ridden any Can Ams out on the Mountain trails. Having just sold one of my Ranchers I only have to come up with about $1500 for a brand new machine. I'll keep you guys posted.

Well, I haven't been on here for a while as I've been extremely busy with work and doing a bit of snowmobiling over the winter. My wife and I decided that after last years season of 4 wheeling that we definitely need to get a different machine. The machines that we have (2013 Honda Ranchers)are and have been very great machines, they just don't seem to meet the needs that we hoped they would. When we do ride 2-up on the trails we ride it is just too rough for my wife. Also neither have power steering and after a day of 40-50 miles she's pretty worn out and sore. So I've had one of them listed for most of the winter and last week sold it. We have been looking for a two up machine and even had problems finding what we want in that arena as well. Every 2-up we've seen either has 10,000+ miles on it or has no power steering. So we basically decided that we would rather do without the machine being a 2-up and have one that has power steering, Independent Rear Suspension, and automatic transmission like a Polaris, Arctic cat, or Can Am. We found one that we are going to get and Hope that it is going to meet our needs. At least it will meet the needs of my wife should she ride solo. We found a 2018 Can Am outlander 570L DPS with only 49 miles on it and still has the warranty. It will be much easier for her to operate, no shifting will be huge. Have never owned a Can Am before and hoping that it will be a good dependable machine for us. Any opinions about Can Ams?

davefrombc, I wasn't myself calling Kymco junk or crap, that is just what I have heard and read a few people say, in fact I got online and did some research, they do look like a decent machine and I myself read that they were associated with Honda. Too bad they don't make a 2 up machine. We do not have a dealership around here for them but there is one dealership that carries CFMoto

Really? A Kymco? I've heard they are Chinese Crap! I think there might be a dealer Here I'll take a look. Never know!