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  1. Hi All, So I am now having an issue with my Quad not wanting to start. When I hit the start button the stater solenoid (located next to the battery) clicks very loudly but the starter motor doesn't spin. If I put power direct to the starter motor (with a jump pack) the starter motor spins. From memory, when I was fiddling with it about a month or so ago, I was able to get it to start and run by using the jump pack on the starter and spraying some aero start into the air box. From there I was able to get it to start via the pull starter. But I need to try that again as I can't bloody remember. I also haven't had a chance to take the panels off and grab my multi-meter so in the mean time I thought i would check in here to see if anyone has a suggestion of what could be up? I had a look at the wiring diagram and the only thing I can think of is the starting circuit relay or CDI but to be honest I'm not sure as the diagram doesn't show the starter solenoid itself so possible the diagram is not the correct one. ( I have attached for reference) Any tips? Cheers, Pok
  2. G'day Michael, It has been a while since I posted about my quad, but from memory I think the main thing I came across was the need to be in 1st gear to then be able to engage reverse. As you have mentioned. Once I knew that, it was happy days. originally I was trying to get things working manually without the engine running which of course didn't work. For records sake, quad is still going well. Doesn't get a huge amount of use but I rode it today after having to drain some old fuel and connecting a jump starter direct to the starter motor as the start solenoid is playing up. None the less still life left in the old girl yet. Thanks. As they say, a picture tells a thousand words !! I just tried a standard socket and spanner. I ended up just draining the oil out via the oil filter cover. I figured even if a small amount of old oil was left behind it was better than destroying the bung. You have to put the transmission into 1st gear first ... then you can engage reverse. it's odd, but it works.
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  4. Hi All, I am hoping someone may be able to help me with how I go about adjusting the H-L-R lever. Currently I have the shaft (marked below as A) installed but have the catch/locator (for the lack of a better term) that engages "B" off. Bike is running well, and I assume it is in High range. When the shaft is connected to the H-L-R lever I can not get it to move from H all the way through to R. I assume due to being out of adjustment however when I move the shaft (A) back and forth when disconnected from the H-L-R lever it seems to click back and forth into two different positions. Now this is where I am confused? If there is High,Low and Reverse, should there be 3 positions, not two? OR is the lug marked as "B" on the below image involved in engaging Low? Any tips on how to adjust the H-L-R lever would be great as it would be handy to be able to use reverse. Cheers, Pok
  5. Update - The old girls seems to want to run quite well. I need to adjust the H-L-R adjustment as getting into reverse is not working properly and need to replace carburetor gasket...but at the moment all sounds and seems to function normal in forward gears......well as much as up and down the driveway. Need to get the H-L-R sorted and get his old girl on the farm to see how she reallly runs. So far....winning !!!
  6. Yeh fair point. My gut says don't run it without a filter....my tight arse wallet says do it just to loosen everything up and then dump the oil....but I guess there is little benefit to doing that. They don't ship to Australia Shall keep any eye out for this sort of gear though. good idea. Otherwise could just use the big syringe type.
  7. Alright so I have finally had all the parts delivered that I was waiting to come in. For interest sake, new parts include battery, starter clutch springs, case bolts, ignition coil (didn't end up needing it) , regulator/generator (didn't end up needing it either), spark plug, oil filter, air filter, engine oil. I think thats all of it...not all yet installed. First port of call was to put the starter clutch back together with the new springs (x 3) and a new gasket for the starter assembly cover. Assembled, connected all the wires and hit the starter button....still have spark...nice start, that means the starter clutch is doing it's job now. Put the spark plug into the head, hit the switch....sounds like she wants to run. Pulled the carby apart, cleaned it out, found a bit of crap it in. Fuel flow now all good. Put back together. Hit the button, still wants to run but just not getting there...a bit of "start ya bastard" (aka aero start).....and ...well see video. ***See post below for video*** ......watching video....seeing awesomeness....Yeee Haa !! So now that I have had that side of things sorted it looks like I am heading in the right direction....so now to check the drive side of things....damn, for the life of me I can't get the oil drain plug off. All that is happening is rounding the head off the bolt/cover. So removed the oil filter cover to find the lovely contents within....seems this bike has, as suspected, been very wet at some stage in its previous life, possibly a flood. Off with the oil filter cover, and out with the oil filter.... Mmmm yum. Took the other cover off the side of engine....not sure what this cover is called; That junk under the cover screams flood to me ! Any hoo, seems things are going the right direction at this stage in regards to getting the engine running but I have one question that I was hoping for some feedback on. If the previous oil had water / other crap in it and I can't get the drain plug off, I was thinking of filling the engine with basic cheap engine oil (read cheapest available - Gulf Western Hi Tech Premium Engine Oil - 20W-50, 5 Litre e.g https://www.supercheapauto.com.au/p/gulf-western-gulf-western-hi-tech-premium-engine-oil---20w-50-5-litre/105586.html?cgid=SCA010704#prefn1=size&srule=Price+Ascending&prefv1=5+Litre&start=1), possibly without oil filter, run engine for a very short period, to loosen any crap in the engine, drain contents at oil filter housing. Put in new filter, again cheap oil. Run, drain. New oil filter, new good oil (Castrol Activ 4T 15W-50 ...already have 4L of this on hand) ..happy days?? Thoughts? Cheers, Pok Video of awesomeness. 20190305_211409_1098444533946453.mp4
  8. So I got a new Starter cap today (part #9 on diagram), but still waiting on the new springs (part 8), I have the original three springs but figured they were the weak link in the chain so worth replacing....BUT they are coming from Japan and I won't have them until next week at least and I was hoping I might be able to get the old girl running sooner than that, so I thought I would put the starter clutch back together using the old springs. For the sake of it some photos attached to show the Starter clutch fitted back to the fly wheel to show it all ready to roll. However, when I attempt to install the fly wheel / starter clutch on the bike one of the little dowels keeps falling out. VERY frustrating. Am I right to think the springs need replacing and they are "lazy" ? Therefore they don't apply enough pressure on the dowel pin within the clutch plate to hold it into position as the flywheel/clutch is installed? Or am I just not doing it right...is there a trick? Any suggestions? Cheers, Pok
  9. Nice ! if I can get them I may as well replace the springs while I am at it. I figure they are really the only parts that can fail?
  10. So I had a partial win after a dig around in the 'bucket of parts' (mainly bolts etc) that came with the Quad. I found most of the parts for the starter clutch, well I think so anyway, (photo below)....but missing one part (Grrrr!!!) - 1 x 'CAP, STARTER CLUTCH SPRING' (part 1J7-15583-01-00). Hopefully I can get my hand on this. Partzilla shows it as available so hopefully available in Australia as I am sure it will be cheaper than replacing the whole clutch assembly if I can get away from it. What I didn't come across, and not sure if I need them or not are the unknown parts that are shown on the exploded parts diagram (see below as "What is this?) - When I have looked at photos of the Starter clutch on line, replacement parts etc there doesn't seem to be any other parts? Also, am I correct that the dowel pins are out of scale in the exploded view? I assume they are the the parts I have marked in my photo below and not another part that I require??? Cheers, Pok Link to Partzilla with parts diagram as per below - https://www.partzilla.com/catalog/yamaha/atv/1991/moto-4-yfm250b/starter-clutch
  11. Rightio so I got the fly wheel off behind the generator and removed the starter clutch...... Ummmm....See photo. Where at the internals of the clutch? Springs etc? Seems someone must have had issues with the clutch in the past so has removed the workings of it. Damn...Now I have to replace them / it. In the mean time, is anyone able to explain in layman's terms how this clutch works? there doesn't seem to be anything to physically engage the cog (aka Cog #2 in previous post) when the starter motor runs? How does the magic happen? Cheers, Pok
  12. Thanks for the point in the right direction. Sounds like I need to the rotor/flywheel off. Any tips? Surely the rollers / springs can be cleaned up instead of replacing the whole clutch?
  13. Looking at these links; https://www.partzilla.com/catalog/yamaha/atv/1991/moto-4-yfm250b/generator https://www.partzilla.com/catalog/yamaha/atv/1991/moto-4-yfm250b/starter-clutch I assume the 'starter clutch' sits behind the generator rotor assembly? Surely the original clutch is still in position and just needs freeing up?
  14. Hi All, Following on from the brief interlude in the "introducing myself" thread.... In a nutshell, I acquired a YFM250 Moto 4 (1991) for cheap recently with the previous owner citing "no spark, needs a new magneto coil and I don't have time to fix it"... anyway I am dubious that the magneto/generator is the issue and thinking more along the line of ignition coil as after a clean up of the magneto I was able to get a rather decent voltage reading off the magneto with pull start and resistence readings seem to check out that the magneto is all ok (all 3 x phases = 1.2 ohms and no run to ground) None the less I ordered a new Ignition coil and Magneto/generator coil and am waiting for them to arrive. In the mean time I cleaned up the current Magneto, popped in a new battery and sparkplug, checked out all the wiring harness, all seemed good except I came across the "neutral switch" wire was broken. After wiring up a new neutral switch wire, the neutral light now comes on (small win) and the starter relay (attached to rectifier) now clicks. If I hit the starter switch on handle bar the starter motor spins and if I pull the cord starter I get a spark on pull....YAY!! I'll try and attach a video below if possible. So onto the starter motor. Starter solenoid seems to work A-ok, even if it looks crappy and starter motor spins as it should when I hit the start switch....but here is my issue. When the starter motor runs it turns Cog #1 and Cog #2 (see photo below)....but the chain in the back of the starter which I assume is the timing chain, does not move and there is no apparent movement of the piston in the cylinder. If I turn it by hand (per photo) or with the pull starter however the chain moves and the engine turns. However cog #2 rotates but not fluidly with the "Crank" (part I turn by hand) for the lack of a better word to use if that makes sense? Is there a grub screw or similar on Cog #2 that fixes it to the center shaft to make it all turn when the starter motor is run? Could there be a part missing? Previous owner had the starter apart so could be possible? The outer/front part seems to be on a key-way so not sure how to remove this easily to check how Cog #2 is attached. What am I missing here? spark_baby.mpg
  15. What is a simple way to test the solenoid?
  16. Yeh the Starter motor solenoid looks pretty crappy (photo attached). With jumping the starter relay, I assume it is just a matter of crossing the 'in' and 'out' wires, for the lack of a better term... e.g. not the neutral or brake safety switch wires ? I am located in Australia, so finding some parts is a pain in the butt. However I was thinking of buying the following starter solenoid; https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/AFTERMARKET-STARTER-SOLENOID-YAMAHA-YFM250-1989-to-1991/272348129240 and I came across this CDI but I am not sure on it...seems to cheap to me. https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/High-Performance-Ignition-Coil-CDI-Box-For-86-91-Yamaha-YFM-225-250-Moto-4-AU/202471978714 When you say the 'Caltrec' ones don't work so well, what are the issues? or just un-reliable? Cheers, Brett
  17. Condition pretty good over all. Frame and suspension suggests it has not done al ot of work but won't give spark. Wiring harness seems to check out. I ran a multi-meter over the stator coil. All three phases came back with the same resistance (1.2 ohms) and there didn't seem to be any shorting to ground. From what I have seen online this suggests the stator coil is all ok? Starter solenoid is pretty corroded and shot I think but the 'neutral' switch wire was disconnected and looking at the wiring diagram I think the starter solenoid will not function unless there is power from the neutral switch (?). Starter motor spins over when connected to battery directly but doesn't sound like it is "engaging" as the engine doesn't turn over...need to check out what is going on there but if I can get it to pull start then atleast that is a starting point (no pun intended) I think the ignition coil is busted though as resistance on the ignition coil seemed through the roof so this seemed like a logical issue to me but I am no mechanic or auto electrician so happy to be proved incorrect. I have not yet checked out the Regulator or starter circuit relay and I believe it is not possible to test the CDI? Am I on the right track???? Cheers.
  18. Sounds familiar. Scored myself a 1991 Moto 4 YFM250 .... not to get it to run. Doesn't spark, previous owner thinks it is the stator, i'm not convinced, I reckon it is the Ignition coil. Now the fun begins.
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