Ulfthednar

Yeah . . the old diehards lived up to their name thats for sure.

over here it's a "battery operated boyfriend" . . .

so you need bigger batteries because you have bigger B.O.B.s is what your saying?

Six years? that would be nice.

Batteries, like a lot of other things used to be a quality item. Not so much anymore. In my twenties I could expect a battery to last seven to ten yea Now 7 months to two years, possibly three is about tops. We've had battery production since before 1900 and people want me to believe the durability and quality just dropped as the technology allegedly went up. that doesnt make any more sense than chomojo.

Dual locking levers or I would have. But due to the style of chain they make sense. Theyre designed to self correct over the tire shape to stay centered, and the center diamond set up is kind of different too, but again, it makes sense. theres two center strands with shackles that you twist through a centering ring and down to the side chains to secure them. I'll run the spacers for winter use, while I'm eyeballing a different route for the brake lines in the future. I'm not riding balls out sliding through corners right now anyway. I've never liked the idea of spacers either, because I understand the offset of the leverage point. Figured that out way back when and, yeah, its okay for a straight line mudholer maybe, but you dont see rock bouncers and crawlers with rim spacers, they widen their axles. the hard core crawlers still use a relatively normal sized rim with a large sidewall tire, not a big dummy DUB rim with knobbly house slippers. The large rims work good for mudders, because it is less weight, better at cleaning out the muck which lets them keep their wheel speed up better. But again, they widen their axles rather than use spacers. I would rather have a rim with a slight negative offset over stock to create a bit more clearance. Even though your moving the origin force point out a bit, the pinion point of the lever effect is still mounted at "point zero" in relation to the spindle, instead of an inch or two out. I even plan to keep the stock tire/wheel widths, even if I go up an inch in diameter. I can't do the mathematical equation, even though I understand the geometry and physics of the rim/tire comb pretty well. Having trouble finding a rim set I like that matches the Rim/width ratios. I kinda like clean, not junky looking and a lot of the rims out their look like tekashi69s grill . . . not flying that. But thats personal preference.

Okay, future note for other CFMoto owners. I noticed when I went to fit my chains that they run awfully close to my brake line with the stock wheel configuration. It's actually the locking lever that really pushes the clearance gap. Something a person might want to check before they roll under power. I haven't found good looking rims with the offsets I want (that and some suppliers aren't really good at supplying details/options onsite), so Im going to run wheel spacers to accommodate the chains during the winter. I'm not going to be bombing around with chains on anyway, so it shouldn't cause serious issues. I'm also going to look at tucking the lines in better to keep them out of harms way.

so . . I recently purchased a 2022 CFM 800. My experience so far has been pretty good, both with the machine and with parts I elected to buy, other than service parts. I have not had any issue obtaining service parts and I believe that availability is growing. I do know some people have had issues, and a good bit of that sounds like individual dealers rather than the manufacturers. I've had no real issues with the machine or with doing the maintenance on it myself, either. I am new to ATVs so I can't really say much in terms of comparison, but as a long time "DIY person" (and pretty good) and a pretty sound mechanic its a straightforward machine and pretty user friendly in terms of basic upkeep.

Yeah, I kinda fight shy of most people myself . . .

Ive found plano makes a couple of bins that will fit perfectly in the back corners of my rear rack. theyre "on the list" of to buy stuff. Also aiming for the rack insert that locks in because the passenger seat comes off. I ended up with an extra passenger seat in a bits n pieces trade but I don't think ill be able to use the seat bracket and build a rack. It doesnt have a basic "framework" but is modularly designed specific to the seat. I MIGHT be able to trade for it though . . thats not a bad idea . . an ATV/UTV swap meet . .

"but wait, theres more" . . Added rails on the racks and the back is largely basic gear, a bucket, tie downs, extraction gear. a long hatchet and a machete are strapped on there too somewhere.

My Harley doesn't do so good in the woods . . . I mean it does, just not so good.

Ehh, getting my 73 RC out of a creek bottom I had no intention to go into was a pretty good feat. In a number of ways the mindset up here is similar to the Deep South. We just do what we do and getting stuck is part of it, like driving in snow in the winter time and such. We dont have gators and wild hogs, we have bear, moose and mountain lions. A couple guys I work with were stalked over the weekend by a pair of mountain lions (visual sightings) and they were less than three miles (as the crow flies) from my literal backyard. Most guys and lots of the women have similar stories and drunk tales and listening to their stories about how they got out or got unstuck? You file that information away for future "what if" scenarios. Listening is always a functional asset of developing wisdom.

well . . . there were no trees large enough . . . out screwing around in a clear cut. Been poking around my scrap pile looking for material to make an ATV sized pul-pal though. extra long ground spike though. Theres usually a lot of "duff" or built up detritus from needle and leaf shed. Its basically fluffy compost like stuff that can be pretty deep and not really stable. I do have more bow shackles/ and a 100 ft "oops I screwed up rope" on the way. Reminds me of a time I got sideways on a snot slick downhill with my 73 dodge. Wed rode out to retrieve my buddys stuck 1/2 2wheel chev up in the swan range in Montana We got to this nasty looking spot and my buddy said "yeah, go around this tree and youll be . . well . . maybe not fine . but stuck, yeah. two trucks stuck and no way I wanted to hear the ribbing on top of it. I did not have a winch. But I had a 30 foot skidder cable and and some binders. I ran the cable around a tree, secured it to my rear bumper (massive piece of design work) and to the frame horns in front and watched my buddy trip as I drove down hill . . which sucked my as* end right up to the tree. Then I bound the back end around the tree with a chain so I had a pivot point, reset the skidder cable and did it again, this time steering uphill, which . . using the tree as a pinion, sucked my front end up onto solid ground. We had just tossed all the gear back in the truck when the second rescue truck came up around the mountain. we got some sideways glances and questioned about being stuck to which I replied "I didnt see a thing, and I aint telling" . . We all laughed, got my buddies truck back on the road, threw down beer and got em all home with another good laugh and story to tell. Im tickled well . . not pink . . to have something with a winch on it. Ive gotten a 2wd 1-1/2 ton van off the frame and off a sandbar with a shovel and cut brush. used farm jacks and stamped bumper jacks (pre hi lift) to lift vehicles and shove them over or build up rocks and logs under the wheels and crab walked up icy hills with bald tires. We got a 69 ford fairlane stuck one time crossing a creek bed one time. Bumper to bumper and the wheels on both ends just barely touching dirt. Cut logs and rounds for levers to lever the thing up high enough to get a bumper jack on it, then the bumper jack up enough to get a trolley jack under the spring perch so we could raise the car enough to get the wheels out of the hole . . each corner we had to do that one. I kinda like this winch thing . . makes it a lot less hassle. but one of these days Im going to do the flip flop winch just so I KNOW how to use it . . My dad taught me to think that way . . and its come in damned handy a lot of times.

My beach borders the sky and has way fewer sheeople. well . . I damn near ended up on the bottom last week . . but the thing pulls hard and stable in reverse. steep hill with a pretty harsh drop right before a kelly hump. I was standing almost vertical on the front fenders going down. Got to this spot and said . . "nope" nope . . not without backup on that one. Backed right on out of it too.

adding the lower rail on the back was a definite positive . . its worked out really well. Most of it is fairly "quick change" and IM working on a few more add ons to make the racks even more versatile.

yeah. I found the tools for them too. the patches I havent quite pinned down yet. I get a good bit of snow and ice here. never found anything more reliable than chains for real traction security. Ice is Ice is Ice is Ice. I don't care how big and bad your turbo diesel rocket truck thinks it is, Ive seen more of them wrecked on the passes than anything else except semis that thought they knew how to drive winter roads. (it can get pretty bad here, there must have been 30 bad wrecks and Dozens of stuck semis one year - all causing even more chain reaction wrecks). The big heavy turbo dino powerguzzlers usually do a barrel roll down the divider and look like a pop can met a nuclear bomb. Sometimes when you pass the wreck the blood is still wet. The AWD cars usually do all right if they have good snow tires on em, but . . not always. I first started looking for chains I was seeing prices in excess of $300 for chains for tires of similar size as my sonoma and my stratus. Same material, same pattern, same or similar weight . . I actually tried a set of ladder chains to see if they fit right across the tire carcass and yes they will, but the ones I have are well . . . I might be able to cut them down to fit the sonoma and use the extra cross bars to make a tighter pattern. A ladder chain isnt going to sit right on an ATV tire, but the diamond style supports itself On the lugs. I tried my damaged les schwab ones (dont buy the les schwab ones for anything but short drive emergencies - they suck) that I wasted money for (theyre incredibly light and maybe good for getting off of the road to a motel or a very short drive) settled correctly on the tire to. So a person could cut down quality diamond chains from a pickup truck and fit them to their ATV. Mind this set of les schwab ones I bought because Id worn out my old ones. It was a bad day on the pass (three hours for a 1/2 drive, lots of wrecks and people stuck all over) and my idiot self had forgotten to throw my chains in the truck. I broke one les schwab chain and wasted the other in a few miles. theyre made out of super light chain and just are not worth the money I spent. I ended up finding a decent set of ladder chains for my sonoma for $60 bucks at checker a week later. My Dodge Ramcharger I expect to pay a good chunk for chains for it. I found chains (two link type) for about $200 for 34 inch Interco swampers. I didnt have enough good chain laying around to build a pair though . . and I briefly thought about breaking down a set of skidder chains (it could work) but if youve ever seen skidder chains? They start at about 90lbs for smaller ones. they drag you to the skidder and allow you to arm wrestle them on. If weather is really bad in my little truck I'll chain the rear and put z-cables on front. going forward doesnt mean much if you can't steer . . . Ive gotten my little pick up trucks through all sorts of stuff set up like that. the 20-30 minutes spent throwing them on pays for itself every time I pass everyone else thats stranded. Chains for the ATV are well . . keeps me on the road and riding more . . I kinda like hiking in the woods in winter.

Kept looking for chains at honest prices instead of gougy prices. Found em . . and right about the price I figured they should be from a a tire chain supplier. Diamond studded chains sized for ATVs. $340 out the door, shipped for TWO pairs (for front and rear) of chains instead of one pair. Unless your dealing with Skidder Chains or heavy equipment chains or something chains are chains. No good Damned reason to be paying twice as much for stupid 3 letter prefix for greed. heres the link. Tire Chains Online

well, you know if they tilt the camera to make it look harsher . .

well, we live in a world where chomos pose as security and grope granny for her scissors now and people take it laying down. Folks used to be a lot more upright and less dependent. LMAO . . . even the articles I am turning up the terminology is turned on it's head over the things. My dad taught me how to use an actual vulcanizing patch when I started riding bicycles. I tore down and rebuilt my first bike when I was seven. I always carried a patch kit somewhere on me as I would range pretty far from home and thirty miles away on a single speed BMX was pretty usual. As long as I was home by dinner or had found a phone and called in. Before I got my license a 100 mile round trip was no big deal. "Goatheads" . . . the bane of tires and bare feet. those things could take out a heavy wall tube (once they came out with them) and standard tubes didn't stand a chance. A bicycle tube without eight or ten patches on it (my dad was pretty annoyed when I came home with seven or eight holes one time - thats when he found the heavy wall tubes). but thats the same dad I remember showing me all sorts of tricks out in the woods on getting vehicles out of mudholes because winches were not an every day thing back then on family vacations either. The early airless tires for bicycles sucked. I barely missed flying off a cliff in a hairpin turn down hilling as a teen riding on those things. Took the airless tires off and threw them away after that. Turnbull Canyon road. Probably all built in down there now. Hell of stiff ride up but sixty and seventy mph downhilling was a blast. That was before mountain bikes. We had Single speeds, BMX, ten speeds and beach cruisers. there were a few twelve speed road bikes out I probably would have died long boarding . . except they didn't have longboards yet either. No cell phones either. So kids had time markers and strict warnings about being home by dinner time and all sorts of things a few years later were considered abuse rather than lessons in personal responsibility. Yet most kids knew basic manners and if something was serious we could usually find a house and ask politely to borrow a phone to call our parents. We carried pocket knives, heat set patches and a tire pump (the new clip on ones were just coming out and were beyond most kids allowances) bungeed on somewhere. They didn't have the nice little tire spoon sets back then either, so you learned to strip and mount a bicycle tire barehanded Of course we had pooka shells and girl friends panties on our rear view mirrors back then. now they have car jewelry and face masks and reeking paper board trees on the mirror Our trophies were bloody knees and not overgrown thumb muscles. Now folks go out and buy all this ready built gadgetry and pre packaged meals and self inflators and think theyre savvy. Salvation is a cell phone away.

Wouldnt be surprised. sheesshh. Used to buy em as a kid. "might' have tried them on a few little green army men . . . but no one can prove a thing!

heh . . Well, here . . ATV are street legal. So I vary my tire pressure. Also . . Some access points it take less time to reach them at legal speeds than it does to load up the trailer and atv. Where I spent 40 or 50 miles this weekend took less time to get to than it would have to load my atv on the trailer then drive out there and unload it. But going by tire specific PSI specs and behavior on pavement . . I run within specs but on the distance on pavement I am going to get where I want to be? I add some air. its easier on the tires and drive train. Also a lot less shimmy in the front end. and better stability on the pavement getting where I want to go . . all without stepping outside the SPECS printed on the side of the tire. Actually, staying well within those specs. The tire pressure that works great on pavement (well below max specs) however, does not fare quite so well on the loose shale that I was climbing once I got off pavement. The pressure that works great on loose shale with these tires is about 5 psi lighter. right around 5 to 7 psi. But when your scooting down pavement to get to your trailer and you hear that howling outta your tires and rear end because of the added resistance on your drivetrain . . and something finally goes "pop". . I hear people doing it all the time . . grinding down the road whipping around pavement corners and you can hear their difs binding up on those soft cushy low pressure tires. A mile or two at low speeds and low pressure shouldn't hurt much . . but again . . ATVs arent just a weekend thing around here (thats not just me) we ride them all over the place, except the freeway. Because here, we can go from point a to point b to get to "Point C" where we want to ride, without hooking up the trailer, throwing out ramps, loading the atv, folding ramps strapping the atv, driving to "point c" and reversing the process and then doing it all over on the way home. I mean if I gotta take a picture of the tire specs I will . . . and nope, no signs of odd or uneven wear, either.

"over kill" . . not having overkill is why I want overkill. Ive had a few very long walks in my day. I have a C02 kit, but primarily want something to air up and down with. Kinda been hoping Full size 4x4 tech might have downsized a bit. I've got a "cheap junk" portable compressor. $25 one I bought years. It's too big and clunky but it's saved my butt roadside or jobsite way more than I spent on it. Got a $20 solar trickle charger that has prevented way more problems than I can guess at (it will fit on the atv) My typical camping trips and such are 20 miles past the last campsite people use, sometimes more. I usually don't see people when I go camping. Which is why I want to have a few certain areas covered. And yeah, the incendiary patches, they are still using them in other countries I know that. And in heavy equipment. But . . "911" ya know. have to take all that kind of stuff out of the hands of normal people. Thats why we can't find them, because this bull garbage run amok waste of a government we've allowed to grow out of control thought some sand potato might buy a bunch of the little trays and scrape out the ingredients and build a bomb that way. Sad

roll it over by hand?