CF MOTO overall quality

[Herring]

I have an old Yamaha quad that needs replacing. I use it mainly for transporting timber on my own plot of land.  What is the general quality of a CF moto? Will they withstand some abuse or should I spend some more and get something Japaneese?

[spock58]

Looking at recent customer reviews, it's pretty hit or miss - they either love em or hate em. Personally, I'd prefer anything Japanese made. 

Reliable, old school Honda's are my fave followed by Yamaha. I've worked at dealerships that sell both and you can still get parts easily and the info about them is readily available.

[Ulfthednar]

Ive used mine for skidding timber, railing in snow, trail riding, getting the snot knocked out of me and havent had any real issues yet. Yet of course.

before I bought mine I sat back and researched for 6 months pretty seriously.

KTM, Bosch and CVTech all got into business with CFmoto.

"most" of the reports besides the errant weird stuff seems to center around dealer attention to detail.

Sloppy final assembley in other words.

A large portion of the rest if you read reviews, is people just not taking care of them and trying to Rod and Mod them before the motor is broken in or intentionally trying to break them.

2019 they had a bad run with transmissions, scrapped their plan and got serious with CVTech.

In other words the Company listened to the consumer and fixed the issue.

It's turning its first thousand and except for the silly little buzzer falling onto teh exhaust and shorting the main cicuit (five cent fix when I figured it out) I have had ZERO issues with my 22 800XC

Engine wise, take care of it is a solid engine.

It's cleanly manufactured, cleanly fitted and just, nice looking.

Sounds good, feels good, rolls out and throttles down very good.

If youve looked at my time lapse video the hill in my backyard ramps up to 40 + degrees in a few spots and my bush bike just smokes the hill.

It doesnt see it as a hill, just a steep flat spot.

 

I certainly wont knock Honda or Yamaha but I would compare Cf right now to the early days when Honda got serious about building to the American Market.

Back when I was a kid we used to say the same things about all the rice burners.

Well, we were wrong. 

The things are winning races, smoking polaris' and can ams in mud pits and growing a pretty large following of modders and riders. (Real talk powersports/Main Street and RNG)

I wanted a machine for Trail riding a bit of serious off roading and heavy labor around my place.

I got sick of waiting for dealers taliing smack (and I had money to cash out the door at any time), watching people charging 20% over current MSRP for a ten year old machine with it's tongue hanging out of its intake and after a year of reading reviews and doing walk and talk arounds.

I said screw it, Im not waiting for people to get their heads on right.

ten months later Im not regretting it.

But I did the break in immaculately and actually take care of the machine too.

Too much dang fun to ride.

 

 

 

 

[Gwbarm]

Thanks for sharing that information I have never really looked closely at them, now I will , it sounds like a descent machine. I always rode the rice burners in the 60s nothing more reliable. Harleys and Triumphs were too expensive, and leaked oil everywhere, but I still liked them, nothing like the Harley sound.

[Ulfthednar]

Real Harleys are a labor of love. Nothing better than single kicking your hand built Pan or Shovel when some dude is struggling with his push button Japarley Koreason Special Edition SOA Dynabling Glide with matching factory sneakers . . . . Never mind the Rump Ranger Riders out there these days. I've ridden in runs running with over 10,000 machines (thats not a mistype) and never seen the level of douchery I see now days. The stunt rice riders have better manners on the road.

 

I did a lot of reading on the brand before I bought one. I'd had cash in hand for two years meeting the great covid wall and seriously . . 8k for a 12 year old used machine because folks were on the pillage thy neighbors wallet bandwagon was ridiculous.

 

When I got into the machine and started doing the maintenance? Pretty easy to work on and the engine itself is elegant.

The one common thing I noticed was the majority of issues oriented around initial dealer set up (lackadaisical work) and sloppy break in.

Yes, CFmoto had some issues, but they RESPONDED to consumer issues and quality problems by upping their game.

The KTM/Bosch/CVtech partnerships really caught my eye. I know about KTM and bosch but researched those connections too.

And thats what really sold me.

KTM IS a NAME and so is CVTech. They aren't going to partnerup with a bad risk