83 Honda ATC 185S HELP PLZ!

[shaggy051385]

ok guys i have a little problem with my 185s i have tried beating and heating the rear brake drum but it just wont come off any ideas am i missing something here? ive got the outter plate off the one with 6 bolts and that slides right off now the problem i have is with the inner plate it has holes in it but i cant see anything holding it on can some one plz help me i like my trike and would hate to get rid of it just cuz i cant fix my little problem

[Ajmboy]

Is the brake lever disengaged? I think you just got to heat it up and beat it up some more, unfortunately.

[shaggy051385]

that really sux ive heated it up so mmuch smoke was pouring out lol but i guess i need a bigger torch all i was using was a hand held propane torch. guess ill try again this weekend and see wat happens

[Raptor8]

you're getting smoke because there is a bearing in there- be sure and repack that with grease before reassembly.

I went out and got my 185 factory book. The drum is splined, of course, but after you remove everything between it and the tire, there's nothing holding it in there...

the backing plate and inner dust cover are welded to the bearing carrier, so that will be staying where it is.

Typical Honda manual, it says 'remove the brake drum.' hahaha perhaps a chilton's would be more enlightening...

I also haver a clymer's here tho I prefer chilton's. clymer= British, chilton= American

the language is different...

If you have both axle nuts and the washer removed, and the brake cables are slack, then there is nothing but corrosion holding that drum on there. Brake shoes sometimes wear out and then eat a groove into the drum.... a couple good smacks with a hammer should break them loose.

But other than that, it's heat I'm afraid. I have a clymers and a factory manual on that rig if you need any more help. [i have a 185 and a 200s]

Don't be afraid to ask.

I can fax you a picture if you have a fax machine or scan a page and email it to you. Let me know if I can help.

Start shooting those splines with PB Blaster or some other penetraing fluid....the splines are all that hold the drum on if you have the axle nuts removed...

Edited October 25, 2010 by Raptor8
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[shaggy051385]

man this really sux i had the darn thing red hot last night and tried everything on it and it just wont budge guess im going to have to remove everything off the left side of the axel and pull it out the old fashioned way

[Raptor8]

sorry to say that's what it sounds like.... not too big a job tho. you get all those parts on ebay....

[shaggy051385]

ok i offically messed up lol was searching ebay today and noticed the brake drum is splined on and ive been trying to twist it off *face palms* yea i know i sound like a dumb as* but it happens guess ill update when i get it off later tonight

Edited October 26, 2010 by DirtDemon
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[shaggy051385]

and i just noticed raptor just said the same thing grr i feel like punching myself lol

Edited October 26, 2010 by DirtDemon
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[DirtDemon]

I have an axle in my garage right now, that has a drum that I believe has been heat welded to the axle. I even tried building a puller that grips the drum through the holes and used a hydraulic bottle jack to apply the pressure, one of the fingers on the puller just broke a piece off the drum. Unfortunately, the only way the axle comes out on this thing, is by removing the drum and pulling it out the other side. We have to cut the brake drum off and try not to damage the splines in the process, a new drum is going to run $130. At least you have a choice to take it out the other way if you can't get the it to pull off the splines.

BTW, I edited your posts for you, please try to avoid f-bombs in the future, I know you are probably frustrated, but this is an all ages forum, so please, atleast try to avoid actually spelling out the cuss words. Good luck with the drum, I hope you get it off there ok.

Edited October 26, 2010 by DirtDemon

[Raptor8]

nail that baby with liquid wrench, pb blaster, whatever is handy and let it soak...

[shaggy051385]

done and done and now i screwed up the threads on the end of the axle trying to pound it out oh joy now i get to spend about 300 bucks to fix everything

[Raptor8]

oh no! it's ebay city or wherever, you should be able to get another 185-200 for that price. I paid $200 for one that needed a $40 CDI box. I think all the 185-200 are the same up until about '84

[shaggy051385]

i just checked ebay and its gonna be about 150-200

[Raptor8]

keep looking.... check the 3 wheeler forum here and look at some of MWKE's posts, the first few. he has some contacts there for 3 wheeler sites. SOMEBODY has one laying in their garage, bet on it! it's a treasure hunt man! hahaha have fun

maybe you can run a die down those threads and restore them. may require some hand filing.... it's a pain in the butt but I have done it before on a crankshaft and it worked. Next time screw the nut back on and pound on a wood block OK?

I'll look around too. Be sure and put it in the classifieds here- someone may have one!

Edited October 26, 2010 by Raptor8

[shaggy051385]

nah id rather just order the parts and have them sent right to me just seems easier that way idk ill have a look around and see wat i can find

[shaggy051385]

ok so ive ordered my parts and they should be here hopefully by next weekend ill keep everyone updated and thnx for all the help

[shaggy051385]

ok so i got my parts installed and now everything is good next on the list new exhaust and seat if i can find one lol