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  1. I am done with replying to  your alternate universe in here. No amount of facts  will  stop the twists and turns the right will take in denying  fact and  accepting spin,  half truths and outright lies.  Have fun  this thread is all  yours.

     

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  2. The "truckers" "protesting"  and  blocking the border crossings and  making asses of themselves in Ottawa have a small  minority of the  border crossing  truckers,  if any of them .. Over 90 % of the ones that were actually hauling cross border  are vaccinated The truckers association has disavowed those idiots "protesting" saying they do  NOT represent them . The majority in Ottawa  want those fools to go  home.  Trudeau's mistake has been  letting them  carry on for far too long before cracking down  on their illegal blockades of the border crossings.  As far as the vaccines and masks working ,  I'm  sorry I didn't realize you lot know  more than the researchers, virologists, doctors and medical  professionals about  the virus, what works and doesn't  work in keeping people safe and combatting the pandemic.

  3. Yup.  Remove all measures meant to limit the pandemic as much as possible . Too hell  with those vulnerable to the virus. Why should anyone be inconvenienced to  protect others?  The only reason the pandemic  killed so  many  and is still ongoing as much as it is  id because so  many refused to  be inconvenienced by simple measures to  protect themselves and others as much as possible . The deniers  must be proud of their "accomplishments".

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  4. 1 hour ago, JustRandy said:

    How many times do I have to post this?  It says the Pilgrims and the Scots-Irish fled religious persecution.  The Pilgrims are what our Thanksgiving Holiday is about.

    The Pilgrims, also known as the Pilgrim Fathers, were the English settlers who came to North America on the Mayflower and established the Plymouth Colony in what is today Plymouth, Massachusetts, named after the final departure port of Plymouth, Devon.

    They held many of the same Puritan Calvinist religious beliefs but, unlike most other Puritans, they maintained that their congregations should separate from the English state church, which led to them being labeled Separatists. After several years living in exile in Holland, they eventually determined to establish a new settlement in the New World and arranged with investors to fund them. They established Plymouth Colony in 1620, where they erected Congregationalist churches.[1] The Pilgrims' story became a central theme in the history and culture of the United States.[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilgrims_(Plymouth_Colony)

     

    Scotch-Irish (or Scots-IrishAmericans are American descendants of Ulster Protestants who immigrated from Ulster in northern Ireland to America during the 18th and 19th centuries, whose ancestors had originally migrated to Ireland mainly from the Scottish Lowlands and Northern England in the 17th century.[5][6] 

    The term Scotch-Irish is used primarily in the United States,[10] with people in Great Britain or Ireland who are of a similar ancestry identifying as Ulster Scots people. Many left for America but over 100,000 Scottish Presbyterians still lived in Ulster in 1700.[11] Many English-born settlers of this period were also Presbyterians. When King Charles I attempted to force these Presbyterians into the Church of England in the 1630s, many chose to re-emigrate to North America where religious liberty was greater. Later attempts to force the Church of England's control over dissident Protestants in Ireland led to further waves of emigration to the trans-Atlantic colonies.[12]  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotch-Irish_Americans

     

    And then we can move on to the Civil War which was still a continuation of the theme of not wanting to be ruled by a distant power.  The Civil War was about states' rights and had nothing to do with slavery.  The federal government put tariffs on European goods to force the south to buy products from the north instead of Europe.  Then France put tariffs on southern cotton as retaliation and shortly after the first shots were fired at Ft Sumter.  The slavery issue was already settled by the Dred Scott SCOTUS (7-2) decision in 1857, which ruled blacks could not be citizens.  So why would the south start a war over slavery if the SCOTUS already ruled in their favor?  The Civil War had nothing to do with slavery.  Even Lincoln said so.  But that's not the picture the democrats paint because they want the focus off states' rights and to demonize those advocating them as racists.

    And still to this day the fight continues between the collectivists wanting centralized power and independents wanting local control.  It never ends.

    Enjoy your alternate universe.

  5. 10 minutes ago, JustRandy said:

    I'm not saying who controlled the colonies; I'm saying that practically everyone who came here did so to escape some form of oppression and find more freedom.  Why else travel across an ocean to an unknown land?  And the revolutionary war was a continuation of that theme of being free of tyranny.

    The prime reason was a distant power barking orders at them, whether it be taxation or any other decrees.  That's why our government is as decentralized as possible, giving power to the states and localities rather than a central authority.

    The federal government was only supposed to maintain an army and settle disputes between the states, not become another aristocracy.

    There were likely  far more came for economic reasons than  fleeing from tyranny, but I'll let you search for data  ( facts)  that  show  it was more for escape from oppression.

  6. So  you claim they were not still in  territory controlled by England at the time and are in the  United States,  which didn't come intro existence until  the 1776 revolution?

    Tell me what  were  the reasons for the Revolution and the formation of the  United States from the  United Colonies?

     

  7. JR  again  you are trying to edit my post to  claim I an  wrong..    I replied to the  founding of the  US.. The rest of the immigration to  escape tyranny and British rule or for more opportunity  was AFTER 1776. before the revolution you had the "United Colonies", still  part of the British Empire.  The reasons for the revolt with led to the  the split with England were as I stated

     

  8. Maybe  among the minority on this site, and maybe the majority  except for me and Mech is silent.

    Freedomflyer needs to go back to  school and  learn  his history.. The colonists were   Englishmen.  The didn't leave  England to  get away from oppression there. They mainly originally went for the resources there, just as France and Spain did.  The Revolution  was  mainly over taxation. The trigger was the  "Tea tax" and repression afterward .  You  do recall the  Boston  Tea  Party, I  hope or did you sleep through that too?  There were some migration to  escape religious persecution, but again they were Englishmen and  only  a small minority separatist movement.  Even today   you  have small religious or  ideological separatist  groups  leaving the US because of "persecution"  and  trying to  establish colonies  in other countries in  Central  and South America.  The only difference  is they  call their  colonies "towns".  Your  original  separatist Pilgrim  settlers  from   England  landed in  North America  in 1620 to establish a  colony ( town).  A  long way  back  from 1775.

  9. LOL  JR, the "truckers" you're heroizing happen to be a very small minority of truck drivers. They  do  not represent the trucker's association ,nor the vast majority of the truckers carrying the goods back and fort over the border.  You  are showing  how thoroughly indoctrinized you  are by the military/ industrial complex who are in fact that small group  of elite you so  disdain,  but carry on in your delusion.

     

  10. LOL  the courts ordered them frozen when  presented evidence supporting the order.  Yes , our system  works  much to the dismay to  the  American extreme right which appears to   have been  among the  most big buck donors supporting the extremists here.   Enjoy your alternate universe where there is no rule of law  and everyone can do as they please with no regard to  the well being and safety of those they come into contact with.

  11. To test a thermostat  you put it in a pot of water  and  heat it up. Use a cooking  thermometer to  measure the water temperature  that the thermostat opens up at. It should open at the temperature it is marked for ..  In a pressure  system, that would most likely  be near or at  sea level boiling point of 212 Degrees F or 100 C

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  12. Good luck on your "freedom" to  ignore stop signs and traffic lights because they inconvenience you .. Good luck on your "freedom" to  walk into a strangers house uninvited . Good luck on your "freedom" to  walk into  a store ,  ignore all their rules, take what you want and walk  out without paying  because all those things inconvenience you..  You  have the "freedom"  to  risk your own  life by  ignoring all the pandemic limiting  rules,  but others also  have the "freedom" to  exclude you from their businesses  and homes if you refuse to  follow their  rules to enter there. 

    Yes ,there are a lot of people who  support your warped ideas of what freedom is, but they are the vast minority,  highly visible,  but still a minority..  That minority is being mislead and influenced by  big  money with its own  agenda. You really  should  seek  out information on where the millions came from  that  ostensibly is to  support the "truckers" but is really  to  create the most chaos and disruption to  business  and government  on both sides of our  common border as possible.

    You can  put up  very misleading videos like the  smoke through the mask  and  post  other stupidities all  you want  to try to  discredit  fact and the medical  community all  you want  but it doesn't  make them  wrong ..  I'm  sure you  would insist  doctors go  unmasked when  operating on you  or your family members because "masks don't work"

    To  put freedoms  into a single sentence,  your "freedom" to  be an  idiot and risk  your own  life ends where it interferes with others "freedom" to  be  as safe as possible  from infection by a potentially deadly  virus that has claimed the lives of  far too  many.

    As so  many  deniers  say ,  "wake up". Maybe  you'll  see just how badly the extremists  have mislead you.

    I wouldn't be surprised if Putin, Xi and  Kim  are  pissing themselves laughing at what is going  on in the west.

     

  13. LOL   JR   you don't have a clue on how  our system works , either governmental  or  our  banking / monetary system,  but go  ahead , enjoy your delusions and have fun with Fox"news" ,  Epochtimes and  Newsmax.  None of them are credible  news sources in the real world..

  14. 56 minutes ago, JustRandy said:

    You wish people would get sick so you can show them the plandemic is no joke?

    Well, pray to The Science and maybe The Science will slay the unbelievers on your behalf.  Maybe offer a blood sacrifice... perhaps a Beagle.

    I said  I'm beginning to  wish they  learn the hard way  they've  been  killing people with their denials of the pandemic and steps to try to  limit its spread..  Yes.  One way or another those fools need to  learn the consequences of their stupidity.

  15. Those "freedom" protesters don;t have a clue what real freedom and social  responsibility  are.The blockades and  "protests"  have nothing to  do  with the vaccine requirements for border crossing .. THat was the excuse to start the idiocy.

     

    I'm reaching the point where I'm beginning to  wish a non-fatal, but very  short term debilitating case of  COVID-19   on  all the deniers to wake them  up to the pandemic is  no  joke.. The fatality  numbers in  the US and Canada  aren't doing  it . Only if  they  get a good dose of it themselves will  wake them  up , although  there have been an  increasing number of high profile influencers have found out to  their demise.  AS  one   university  student who  caught the virus on purpose said just before he died " I think  I  fu**** up".

    Freedomflyer,   read and understand what's in the link  you  posted up.  The government  and  GoFundMe are not stealing anything.

     

     

  16. No theft involved.  The funds are frozen, not by the government but by GoFundMe for violating their TOS,  and now ordered frozen by a  judge because of the illegal activity by the organizers and participants..  I  know the  extreme right doesn't believe in the law when it applies to them,  but I hope they get a very rude awakening.  Those blockades  and protests have nothing to  do  with the cross border truck traffic.. Over 90%  of the international  truckers are vaxxed and the vast majority of the "protesters"  are  not  drivers of the cross border trucks.  Not only  our government  orders cross border truckers be  vaxxed ,  but it  is Also YOUR governments rule .. So  you  think a small  minority of  Canadian truckers who  don't even  cross the border or our  government  should tell  your  government  what the rules entering the  US  should be?

  17. 4 hours ago, JustRandy said:

    Where do you think pneumonia vaccines came from?  That's the only vaccine no one is pushing, yet you're most likely to die from pneumonia.

    Yeah and masks didn't work then either.

    "Notwithstanding the fact that the very complete records at the disposal of the California State Board of Health indicate conclusively that the compulsory wearing of masks does not affect the progress of the epidemic, it was advised that individuals wear them when in close association with their friends, as it is upon just those occasions that, under a compulsory law, the mask is most liable to be laid aside.  The use of the face mask was advised particularly in the presence of anyone who was suffering from a cold or who had recently recovered from influenza.

    Early in the progress of the epidemic the California State Board of Health issued a regulation requiring the wearing of masks by those in actual contact with known cases, and by persons suffering from a cold while in association with the general public.  Under this regulation any health officer could arrest any person with a cold who was found going about unmasked.  The reason for the above statement regarding the faults of the mask as an effective protection when applied forcibly to whole communities is to be found by a comparison of the mortality charts of those cities that did not use the mask with those cities that did.

    The frontispiece shows the cities of Boston, Buffalo, San Francisco and Washington, each with almost identically the same curve and the same death rate per hundred thousand, and in only one of them, San Francisco, was the mask used. New York City, before referred to, as one of those cities that did not prohibit public gatherings, did not use masks either, and its record of deaths is lower than that of any of the other larger cities.  Stockton is one town in California that has worn the mask consistently. In Figure 18 is shown Stockton’s record as compared with Boston, which did not require the mask. The conclusion is definitely established that the mask is ineffective."

    Dr. Wilfred Kellogg, MD, Secretary and Executive Officer, CA State Board of Health: Influenza: A Study of Measures Adopted for the Control of the Epidemic (California State Board of Health Special Bulletin, Number 31, 1919, page 12.) https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.31378008030317&view=1up&seq=15

    How can they have EUA without blocking effective treatments?  Without EUA pharma would be sued into oblivion.

    GOP should put you on the payroll.

    COVID -19  is not an influenza strain, and masks do  help  reduce the spread of it no matter what you claim of studies denying it.  The reason  masking up  has been  largely less effective than  it  could be is simply  because so  many simpletons refuse to do so.. They SLOW the transmission , not prevent it. If  an  infected person is wearing one and an uninfected person  is 6" away ,chance of transmission is greatly reduced between them. I feel sorry for you if you can't understand that simple concept.  There  are  multiple studies that  illustrate the  rate of transmission  related to  one masked and  both and with distancing,  but then  those are  factual  studies ,  but  they  must be fake in your  alternate universe.

  18. They had no antibiotics or vaccines for the flu in1918.  All they really had was masking up and quarantines back then. Yeah , the big Pharma  withholding early treatment bullshit.  You  fool conspiracy  theorists  have  been compounding the misery of the families by  pushing it. 

    That's some strange universe you live in.  I  hear  Big  Pharma made a deal  with the  funeral industry to  keep  the  Fountain of Youth  hidden  all  these years too.   Obviously you  haven't bought your ant-EMF clothes to  keep  all that rf energy from 5G from affecting your  brain. They must be doing a booming business  selling it  judging by the  number of ads for it on social media.  Better get yours before it's too late  and they're  out of stock.

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