Quantcast
Jump to content


Lakota help?


Recommended Posts

Okay have an old lakota, died while riding several years back ( early 1500s or so!). Just trying to revive the dead again, recoil starter seems dead.  Hooked a car battery up half arsed and it did turn over although sloooowwwwwwllllllllyyyyyyyy! When it died thought there was no spark. So any ideas on best steps to try and start finding the problems? Put some penetrating oil in cylinder to help loosen it up. 

  • Haha 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Hey TN! 

Personally I wouldn't run fuel from the tank to the carb if it sat for more than a year. I'd get a new battery and see if she'll crank over acceptably. Then (clean the plug) verify spark with no fuel. Once spark is verified. I'd just use starting fluid to see if it'll run. 

If it sat for more than a year, I'd go ahead and remove the tank, remove petcock and clean the tank. My buds sat for many years and then he got it to run, but he said it didn't run well. When I took the petcock off there was trash in the area where the petcock is mounted. The petcock itself was crusty inside.  I was able to disassemble the petcock and clean it (be careful removing o ring) and did get it to function without any leaks. We purchased a petcock but I'd already cleaned the old one by the time it arrived.

Ultimately the carb ended up needing a float valve and thorough cleaning.

Good luck and keep us posted.

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Pulled the plastic off and who ever worked on this bike b4 me needs his man card pulled, and a warning label tattooed on his face not to touch tools! Literally baling wire and 10 to 20 lock washers and regular washers on each too small bolt but waaaaaayyyyyy too long!

Now onward and upward I hope! Fuse blown, handlebar switch bypassed (not by me) and I hate wiring along with work and wrenching but that's another subject!

Edited by tnhomestead
Additionally
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Okay, well threw in a temp patch on the wiring, now have neutral light and power to the front and rear lights if they had bulbs in them. Still no spark, but the handlebar switch looks really bad so will check the kill switch next and change spark plug as well. Tested pickup coil on multimeter and showed okay so hope that's good. Have not tried yet to see if I am getting a pulse from it though. If anyone has ideas feel free since I have no clue what I am doing! Lol

Link to comment
Share on other sites

According to the manual for the lakota, you can check resistance between the wires and it should fall in specified ranges. In my case, when I checked several of the wires showed open circuit, ie broken connections where they should be resistance.  I took that to be bad! Lol But there are several you tube videos showing how to test all of these but all seem to say it can pass but still be bad.

Like I said. I know very little on these quads, so its possible I messed up big time! But its 14-17 on the Lakota service manual where I got my info if that helps 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Ready to pull my last hairs out! Please help b4 I end up looking like I am in basic again, I dont look good bald! No spark. Replaced cdi, tests good. Replaced coil also tests good. Appear to have power to cdi from pickup coil best I can tell with a normal multimeter. Appears to have power to coil from cdi. New plug

WHAT AM I MISSING? Please?

On the good side should have a small cramped space to work next week!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Have you tested the plug wire and boot? I had a bad boot once new in box. It was cheap chinese so my fault. 

I'm still not convinced it's not CDI. There is no way to properly test a CDI so my advice would be to bake the CDI for 5 minutes or so at 250 maybe and see if you get spark then. CDI doesn't even really do much until its powered and triggered to work so resistance testing wouldn't tell much. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Well, worth a try if I dont mind sleeping with the fishes- better half is a bit protective of her new stove! Wonder if you could rig an led light to flash when the cdi gets triggered? I sure do miss points at times, working on stuff smarter than me is a pain! Thanks, will try the idea this weekend

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Think its time to make a direct voltage adapter so I can check coil etc properly. Took an led, stuck in output from pickup coil and when turning engine over, the led pulsed in time. So kill switch and coil working. Hooked to output from cdi and led lit up and stayed lit. That doesn't sound right. But started raining so not sure if I had plugged the coil back in. Can't wait for a slab of concrete and a roof! 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 3 weeks later...

WE GOT SPARK! Woohoo! Replaced cdi box with gm hei and sparks magically flew through the spark plug! Lol Now to get a battery and see what happens. Nest step order a start solenoid to replace this wired up hack of a starter button. And find a battery for it and a solar panel to keep it charged. Took forever the gm hei ignition module to get here, somehow the usps sent it to Florida instead of Tennessee! 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

From what I have read the timing advance works but has to be hooked up right. Main point of trying it was to test what was going on as cheap as possible, cant throw too much money at this until it runs or it may start to rain cast iron skillets! Lol will let you know but may be a few days.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Similar Forum Topics

    • By Mikey69
      Heres my story. Kinda long. I guess I was a late bloomer when it comes to quads. I had never ridden a quad in my life. Rode Dirt Bikes as a kid growing up. Back in Oct of '06 I found a Mustang on craigslist. Took it for a test drive one morning before work. Fast car. 351 Cleveland. I had planned on meeting the guy again after work. For some strange reason thats still to this day beyond me, I stopped in Hillsboro MotoSports on the way home from work. I had 6 Grand on me. There was a left over '05 sitting by the front door. It was on sale for $4999. It was $5499 OTD. I didnt even look at anything else. I knew nothing about quads accept I thought it really looked coool and I had the money in my pocket to buy it. I was sitting on it when the salesman walked up and asked... "Can I help you?" Without hestitation I pulled 60 Ben Franklins outta my front pocket and said "I want this Quad. Load it up in my truck." It was just about dark by the time I drove away from the shop. BTW, I didnt bother to ask my ol lady if I could buy it. LOL. Anyway, I took it by the house and showed her. She was kinda stunned but not mad. We drove over to a friend of mines house and unloaded it. I took it to the field across the street from his house. HOLY CHIT!!!!! I was surprised by the power. I had it for about 2 weeks and took it to Sand Lake. I was there a few hours and rolled it on a banked turn at the top of the bowl right before you get to the one-ways. When it rolled, I flew off and landed on my belly. The quad came bouncing and landed on my back. For a month I couldnt even walk. I was scared of it. I considered trading it for a 250EX. Went back to the shop. The salesman said..."Dude!!! You dont want a 250EX!!! Trust me. Just get used to it" I still wasnt convinced. I put it on craigslist for $4000. Calls were coming in. I had a guy that wanted to come look at it that evening. I decided to take it for one last ride at Browns Camp before I sold it. I was still afraid of it. After about 5 minutes I started feeling comfortable on it again. I decided right then, I loved my Honda 450 and would learn how to ride it instead of selling it. That was late Nov of '06. Work was slow for a Painter in Oregon. My new job everyday? Going to Browns Camp and ridding my Quad. I bought my Girl Friend an '02 Blaster. I rode my 450 for 4-6 hours almost every single day for 3 months. And yes, I know my way around Browns Camp pretty well. LOL. In March I bought her an '06 TRX250EX (Thank God I didnt trade my 450 for one of those) LOL Since then, I have become totally addicted to quads. I love them. Couldnt imagine not owning at least one quad. Luckily I have two. My "07 was $6500 OTD in July of '07. Bought it for my Girlfriend. Traded in her 250 EX. A month later we broke up. So, I wound up with two Honda 450's.
       
    • By hardcastle
      My friends KQ 300 starts fine and runs, as soon as you put it in gear and try to accelerate its bucks and farts like crazy, not moving... I cleaned carb and it worked good for 1 day... now back to same problem.... could it be such as a bent valve????
    • By HoldenBoy
      Hi all,
      Looking for some help on a starter/bendix issue. Can Am outlander 450 2017. While cranking to start, the starter spins and engages into the ring gear. After a few seconds the bendix retracts while still spinning and there is no damaged teeth on the drive pulley.
    • By McG75
      Hello I’m new here and was wondering is anyone knew of good replacement part numbers for front struts and rear shocks for this atv? I think I’ve found a new rear shock, that looks like the original but there is no dimensions or anything and was wondering if there are any afterMarket new front struts available. I know it’s a long shot but any help would be appreciated. 
    • By mehim
      Hi everyone. 
      Let me explain the thread title. 
      My husband and I are very active in the nudist community, and we have stayed at many and most of the mainstream nudist and clothing optional campgrounds in the USA. We are now approaching our retirement and would like to start a podcast to share those off the road / backwoods / little known camping areas where nudity is allowed. We have purchased a 5th wheel camping trailer with a rear garage for the ATV and now need some good reports on the one to buy. 
      We are most interested in a side by side unit but would love to get your thoughts. 
      Feel free to stop by and say Hi and ask anything you would like to better understand what we are looking for in an offroad unit. 
      Thanks for reading and hope to hear from you. 

×
×
  • Create New...