New to Quads and lovin it!

[Mike Foreman]

Been a motorsport guy for a long time and moved to the country a few months ago...got two quads- 2018 Yamaha 700 4x4 and Polaris 110 Outlaw for the kiddos.  Been great but that polaris has been a maintenance suck.  Brakes suck, electrical system suck.  Currently it is dead - I will say my son rides it just about every day and LOVES it.  Fuses are good and Key switch is ok, battery ok,

Going to start to dive into wiring but need a manual to start tracing wires... so this is one of n threads to start here...  

[Frank Angerano]

Welcome to Quadcrazy mike! You will find what you need here to get your bike/bikes squared away and running again.  As a new member you are required to have at least 10 posts on the site before you can download a manual.   Which I’m sure if your into the quads like you say then it won’t  be a problem as this site/forum has a ton to offer in technical support as well as member support. Some of which  have had the same type or similar problems and can really help. 

 

 

 

 

[Mike Foreman]

sounds good, I've seen the wiring has been a problem and ignition switch- looking for some direction on components that go south - kids been in a ton of mud lately... 

 

[Frank Angerano]

So what’s going on as far as the wiring? Dead, crank but no spark, spark but not cranking with the starter ? 

What year is the bike ?

[Mike Foreman]

2016 and no lights/no power but battery, fuses and ignition switch are good... seems to be wiring but not sure of any other safety switches on these little ATV's... last time it was a fuse, but checked them all and all blocks have power. 

[Frank Angerano]

So here’s  a stupid question. That bike should have a tether switch on the back ? Have you checked that by any chance ? 

1 to see if the switch is swamped and soaked

2 the wires going to it are not burnt up or corroded? 

[Frank Angerano]

Also have you double checked the main ground for a broke connection or corroded as well. 

[Frank Angerano]

Your ignition switch should have a red wire going to it ? If so is there 12v+ on that wire?The red wire when the ignition turns on should send 12 v + to the brown wire which goes to a splice of about 10 brown wires and that should distribute power to the rest of the bike. 

[Frank Angerano]

Any luck ? 

[Mike Foreman]

ground is fine, checked that- power to the ignition switch but then it goes back into the wire bundle from there... kind of where I need a schematic... will look at the teather switch - it's a 2016 and kept pretty clean except for this past week it was raining a ton and he got it really muddy... 

teather switch is ok as well. that is by the ignition on the 110 outlaw. 

[Frank Angerano]

There are two I think.  One by handle bars and one in the rear I think?   

On the ignition what color wires have power? Should only be the red coming in and the brown going  out when key is on.   

[Mike Foreman]

so is there a main relay/switch for the power distribution? I have power at the switch, safety teather is fine, fuses are fine and power there... checked power at a relay on the front and it has power but didn't check the relay - anyone know the resistance between connections? other ideas? 

[Mike Foreman]

would the starter relay cause the lights on the dash not to come on? I have a small amout of resistance on the secondary pins of the starter relay but infinate on the two large terminals.  I think it may be fried... 

[Frank Angerano]

Off you can snap a few pics of the relay and any other connections ignition switch etc and post them.  What color wires are you looking at ? 

My feeling is It’s a power failure someplace in a safety maybe ? Neutral safety switch or a soaked relay.  

Yes the relay would stop the dash lights from coming on.

That relay has four wires on it ? Colors ? 

[Mike Foreman]

current state. Don’t see any safety switches on the parts breakdown for this model. 

[Frank Angerano]

yes the relay would stop the dash from coming on.  Is this your relay ?

[Mike Foreman]

 looks like it.  4 pin battery hot on one side but not the other - .08 Ohms on the smaller pin between them.  Open on the larger (switch open) 

 

I should be able to check across the L/W / G/Y when I press the starter switch right? 

[Frank Angerano]

Yes you can jump the two with the key on for a second and see if the dash lights come on 

The brake handle has to be in and locked also as a safety I think ? 

The two outer larger pins on that relay plug 

[Frank Angerano]

That R2 and L/W try to jump them out quickly and see what happens.  I’m thinking your dash will come on.  

[Frank Angerano]

So this relay. If you were to put 12 volts on these two tabs the relay should make a click sound.  Then with a tester the two smaller tabs should have continuity across them. 

Power comes off the continuity will be lost.  

I want you to be sure what your jumping out so you don’t blow any fuses.  

When power is applied to that relay it closes the instrument/starting circuit so you have dash lights and a start circuit. The two smaller tabs that have continuity are the two wires you would jump to see if the bike fires. 

[Mike Foreman]

Seems like ignition switch is bad.  Banged on it and lights come on but not enough juice to turn it over but I have lights.  Then comes in and out.  

[Frank Angerano]

Awesome! Going to swap it out or going to open it up and try to it play with it ?

Amazon has it $20 !

Great find brother.  Nice work.   

[Mike Foreman]

yeah man, totally cracking it open this morning... it's a combo - lights, starter horn. haven't found any substitutes yet.. unless you know of a genric for it -0455150 is the PN...

[Frank Angerano]

IGNITION KEY SWITCH FITS POLARIS OUTLAW 110 EFI/SPORTSMAN 110 EFI 2016-2018 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LYTGL3D/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_v6LcCbQCTVEC0

 

this is an aftermarket part.  

[Mike Foreman]

and...tested the relay - nothin... going to swap that out first.

[Frank Angerano]

That’s a good idea.   The relays go bad over time.   That is a newer bike so I’m a little surprised but anything’s possable.   

Ignition switches go bad all the time.  Especially when they are in bad locations.    Polaris was putting them on the right side of the bike in front of the gas tank. Not sure on the outlaw but could be just wet and oxidized inside.  

[Frank Angerano]

Hey mike. How did you make out with the ignition and relay ? 

[JacobSlabach]

On 12/6/2018 at 9:30 PM, Mike Foreman said:

current state. Don’t see any safety switches on the parts breakdown for this model. 

looks like a really fun bike!

[Mike Foreman]

Need to close this thread! 

So I had two issues- one was a dead cell and the other was the kill switch.  Replaced battery  and swapped out the switch for a 7.99 autozone waterproof switch.   Sodiered it back and glued it to the original plastic. Works great again.   Also swapped all brake shoes out and it stops again but the rear brakes on this Polaris really blow.  

[geri]

nice job.. im new too.. the more I learn the better for sure