1994 yamaha blaster vs 2008 honda recon 420

[SunLrider]

ok i need this question answer quickly before i might make a fool of myself. my friend is picking up a 2008 honda recon 420 tomarrow and i dont know if i should race him or not. im pretty sure i would beat him but just going here to have some questions answered first.

1) obviously, he will beat me on the trails. but any hint on how to outrun him making him feel like an idiot?

2) any mods i might want to get before i race him? nothing toooo expensive

3)do you think i will win or not? im a pretty good rider and he used to have a big bear 400 that he rode like once a month and never got out of 3rd gear, so hes not the greatest rider. like they say. its the rider that wins the race, not the bike

[mywifeknowseverythin]

Im not a Quad guy....Thats pretty well known......LOL....

However,,,,,Ive been around Lots of Blasters.....Most of them Modded to the hilt....Not sure if Ive ever been near a Stock one..... Anyway,,,, 400cc 4 Stroke Vs. 200CC 2 Stroke Motor to motor is pretty Even.....Now add the Weight of Rider and The rest of the Quad and there is where you will Gain....Lots of Races are Won in the HOLESHOT.....Straight line races that is.....I think you will take it.....

Just remember......To make it fair....Have a 3rd person Do the Hand Drop.....and another at the end to Judge......

300Ft is a Common Drag length for ATV's...

[Stoopidbot1]

You should be able to accelerate faster than him. You should have no problem.

[SunLrider]

its cause we are going on a ride with a bunch of people next weekend and i wanna show him up. he weighs about 150 and im about 125.

[trailblazer_02]

you should dust him.

[SunLrider]

i dunno how its going to react. been verrrrrry boggy. today it died in the woods and i had to tow it with the sunl all the way up a hill about 2 miles

[Stoopidbot1]

Have you cleaned your air filter?

[BuckBilly]

I want to see pictures of a 420 Recon. Never seen a 420 Recon before.

[SunLrider]

i meant 420 rubicon. and no. i have not cleaned my new K&N air filter seince i got it a while ago

[Stoopidbot1]

Are you running a prefilter?

[SunLrider]

i dont think soooo

[SunLrider]

i dont think sooo

[Stoopidbot1]

This will have nothing to do with your current issue but a K&N style filter lets larger particles through. You should run a pre filter. It is just a bag that goes over your filter.

[SunLrider]

ok. could it be the oil im running?

[Stoopidbot1]

What kind of oil do you run? As long as it's 2 stroke oil that you are mixing I don't think it would make it bog. Will it start, does it idle or immediately start bogging down?

[SunLrider]

castrol snowmobile oil. im pretty sure it wont make a difference. it starts on the 1-3 kick and it has no idle and when i start going, it bogs alotttt until i get into 2nd gear and start really ripping it.

[Stoopidbot1]

I would have to say some thing in the carb for sure. Have you ever took your carb apart to clean it?

[SunLrider]

no sir. im afraid to i dont want to break it

[SunLrider]

here is some pictures of the carb. i hope these will help with the idle and the bogging

[Stoopidbot1]

I will see what I can come up with or who I can get some info from.

[SunLrider]

ok thanks alot. tons of other things to fix on the blaster today. give it a good wash and such

[Stoopidbot1]

I got some emails going out to all of my mechanic buddies.

[outlander560]

first thing i always do is find the drain plug in the carb located at the bottom of it and drain it for a good 5 to 8 seconds and then run it see how it is..

[SunLrider]

there are 2 screws we found. one is on the top of the carb and it looks like it controls the throttle. there is another one on the side of the carb and i think it is the idle adjuster

[outlander560]

hhmmm u dont see anything that looks like a cylinder 1/4 inch prob shorter with a screw on it??? if not i know that a couple people on her have used carb clean i havent but im sure someone will chime in...

[SunLrider]

after about 2 hours of adjusting i finally fixed it.

[outlander560]

lol congrats

[mywifeknowseverythin]

What does your Plug look like?????????

What adjustments did you do to make it work......Just Air Mix or did you replace any Jets???

The air screw is most effective between idle through 1/8 throttle.

The pilot (slow) jet is most effective between 1/8 through 1/4 throttle.

The slide valve is most effective between 1/8 through 1/2 throttle

The jet needle is most effective between 1/4 through 3/4 throttle.

The main jet is most effective between 3/4 through wide-open throttle.

Did you clean your filter????? If you dont have a Pre- Filter,,,,,Even a pair of your Moms Pantyhose will work.....

Dont tell my wife.....But I have a Pair of hers on my Sons Drilled Air box....

[Raptor8]

the bowl drain screw is right next to the drain hose on the LH side. see it?

mixture can make it bog. are you mixing fuel and oil or using the pump and the tank?

try a new spark plug.

hey looking at your carb pics, your oil injection port is open to the atmosphere!

there's a lean vacuum leak problem! get a little block off nipple from an auto parts store and slide it on there! It's on the RH side, towards the front, it is the larger of the two, above that big plug but below the little brass plug. This carb is used on many bikes n stuff that's why it has so many blanks cast into it. It's not a BIG leak, but it's a leak.....that's where your injector pump pushes oil into the engine.

Did you change your main jet when you installed the pipe? you might look at that too. loosen the mounting clamp to the intake and rotate the carb so you can get the bowl off. the main jet is in a little holder up inside the bowl. it has a number on it. let us know what that number is OK? watch the color of your spark plug- if it is light brown, then this may be unnecessary. If not, maybe we should look at it.

Edited November 14, 2008 by Raptor8
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[Stoopidbot1]

the bowl drain screw is right next to the drain hose on the LH side. see it?

mixture can make it bog. are you mixing fuel and oil or using the pump and the tank?

try a new spark plug.

hey looking at your carb pics, your oil injection port is open to the atmosphere!

there's a lean vacuum leak problem! get a little block off nipple from an auto parts store and slide it on there! It's on the RH side, towards the front, it is the larger of the two, above that big plug but below the little brass plug. This carb is used on many bikes n stuff that's why it has so many blanks cast into it. It's not a BIG leak, but it's a leak.....that's where your injector pump pushes oil into the engine.

That is exactly why we added you to the team! Thanks for the great info Raptor8.

Edited November 14, 2008 by Raptor8