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2016 Presidential Election Discussion Thread

Next President?  

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  1. 1. Vote for your choice for the next President of the United States

    • Hillary Clinton
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Business is up. Jobs are up. Local donut shop just did a 3 million add on and tells me they need ppl bad. I don't expect miracles in a year. 

I'm good.

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My 401k is up a lot and hopefully we'll get some tax relief soon so I'm good. I'm not thrilled with healthcare and wish they would have done something. For 2018 our family plan from my employer is a little worse with the deductibles and co-insurance stuff. Now I need to get a health savings account. I used to have great healthcare with this company, $25 co-pay for doctors visits and that's it. It's gotten worse every year since obamacare and rates have gone up.

Just to put the medical into perspective I have 2 kids, 3 years old and 10 years old and when my 10 year old was born we paid $250 out of pocket, but when my 3 year was born it was $6000 out of pocket. Regular Doctor visits went from a $25 co-pay to you pay the co-insurance rate which is $80-100. And this is employer sponsored healthcare. If this administration can fix this BS, I'll be happy camper. 

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Good  luck if you think the  GOP   and  tRump's " tax cuts" are going to  put  any  more  money in your  pocket  unless you  are  part of the 1%.

I'll take  our  Canadian  single payer  healthcare  system.  Paid  for through taxes that  cost us  far  less than any plan  in the  US.  No  co-pay,  we  choose our  doctor,  no exclusions  for  pre-existing  conditions  and  no caps. It's not perfect  by  any  means , but everyone is covered and  nobody  has to go  broke  because they  had  the  audacity  to  have a  child or get  sick or  injured.

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I agree with your health coverage 100% Dave. 

As for the tax thing, something needed changed. Good or bad for who, we'll see but at least something is changing.


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 America needs to do  is go back to the  tax regime  of the  '50's where  corporations  and  the rich  needed   to reinvest in their  companies and charities ( " social programs"  were never  mentioned as  such  because  of military / industrial propaganda demonizing  anything "social" with the dreaded   Communism  and  Socialism  of the  time)

I'm  afraid  anyone  looking for  the  GOP  tax  cuts  to be   good  for  those in the  middle  and lower  incomes is  going to  be  sadly disappointed. Removing  the  controls on lenders  and cutting  taxes on the big business and the  1% is  going to  lead to the  deficits  ballooning and another big  crash  such as was  caused by  Reagan's  "trickle down "  voodoo economics .

America  needs to  invest in education, healthcare and infrastructure. It  certainly doesn't  need  another  big  jump in military  spending  and  tax breaks  for the rich;  neither  of  which  do  a  thing  for the well being of  the  population.

Without  education  to  develop  and  use the technology and  new  products  or  the infrastructure  to  carry those goods to  market Americans  are going to  keep  falling  behind as they  see  the  advances  others  are  making.  What  good  are  new  stealth  military  aircraft  when  bridges  are  falling  down and streets  are  crumbling?

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On 11/1/2016 at 1:09 AM, JustRandy said:

He reminds me of Hoover with the talk of tariffs right at the top of a stock market bubble:

When the Wall Street Crash of 1929 struck less than eight months after he took office, Hoover tried to combat the ensuing Great Depression in the United Stateswith large-scale government public works projects such as the Hoover Dam, and calls on industry to keep wages high. He reluctantly approved the Smoot–Hawley Tariff, which sent foreign trade spiralling down. He believed it was essential to balance the budget despite falling tax revenue, so he raised the tax rates. The economy kept falling and unemployment rates rose to about 25%. This downward spiral, plus his support for prohibition policies that had lost favor, set the stage for Hoover's overwhelming defeat in 1932 by Democrat Franklin D. Roosevelt, who promised a New Deal. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_Hoover

Lots of familiar talk comparing with Trump.

Trump = Hoover? ;)



Time to party like it's 1929 🤑


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It is interesting to see what the DOW is doing. I think there are some influences in the market and some corrections taking place. Overall, 2017 was too good of a year for investors and 401Ks. We'll see what happens this week. My tax deductions must have gone down because got more in my paycheck last week 🤑

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Its hard for me to see the impact of the tax change because I changed from hourly to salary, and now I get paid every 2 weeks. 

My 401k and other retirement plans have been doing awesome.



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