Lakota 300 locked wheels.

[06kfx440]

So my friend was riding this and all 4 wheels locked up and had to be slid out of the woods. We put it on the trailer and and left it alone thinking it was ice.

 

So he drove home and as we drug it off the trailer “snap!” Started rolling again. I told him to leave it since it’s rolling and we can figure it out

 

I’m not close to the machine to try things or even work on it. Buy anyone have an idea. I was thinking ice like mentioned. But nothing was leaking to indicate a broken case or seal. And the fact it rolled just by bouncing on the trailer. Very confused

 

 

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[MarkinAR]

Ice would be the only option I could think of.  Lakota was 2wd and the front and rear brakes were on different functions (rear i think was manual, front was probably manual too if it's like a Bayou) so there's really no common thread other than ice.

[06kfx440]

Maybe not a Lakota. Maybe a bayou. Not sure. Not my machine. I do know it’s 4wd.


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[MarkinAR]

That's a bayou 300.  If all 3 wheels locked and it won't roll i'd check the ujoint in the rear axle housing.  Just had a Honda 300 blow that ujoint and tear the primary gear drive out of the side of the block when it did.  Unfortunately you have to pull the rear diff and slide the axle out of the housing to check but that would be what i would suspect first.

[06kfx440]

I do know it was grinding like a mofo. Then it locked up but freed up. But I will check that out when we get there. Thanks for your help mark. It’s appreciated


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[Frank Angerano]

Have you checked that all four tires are the same size? It appears that the fronts look smaller then the rear bit it could be the pic.  All 4x4's have to have the same size.  
Just a shot in the dark but hey could be. 

[06kfx440]

All 4 are the same. I just got info that this quad was abused. Hard. Like pushing race cars to start them. And plowing. So I’m not surprised things broke. But my friend wanted to use it before looking into it.


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[George Henry]

1 hour ago, Frank Angerano said:

Have you checked that all four tires are the same size? It appears that the fronts look smaller then the rear bit it could be the pic.  All 4x4's have to have the same size.  
Just a shot in the dark but hey could be. 

I'm glad I caught this post.  I didn't know 4X4s needed all four tires the same.  I never owned a 4X4.  Is that for all quads?

[davefrombc]

It depends on the  quad whether  all 4 tires are the same .. Check  the owners manual   or  online .. Some have a slightly different  gear ration front and rear  and  use smaller tires on the front .

Edited February 15, 2020 by davefrombc

[Frank Angerano]

4x4s in general have the same gear ratio front and back unless specifically designed otherwise.  All four wheels have to rotate at the same time with cars and trucks as well. So unless there are specific builds then yes same size tires are required.   

[davefrombc]

My `1991 Honda Fourtrax 300FW  actually calls for  1 "  smaller tires  on the   front than the  rear ....  23" diameter  on the  front  and 24" on the rear  because of a slight difference  in the  gear ratios in the differentials. . That being  said most, including  me  run  the same  size tire  all the way  around.   The  gearing  is close  enough  and since  quads are seldom  ridden  on pavement or hard surfaces  that  prevent  tire slip   we don't  have a problem with drive train  binding.   Yes,  it is  "normal"  to  have tire sizes  front and rear the same  on 4x4 trucks and SUV's but it  is not necessarily  so  on  Quads ,  tractors and some other off highway  equipment that are  4 x4  or all wheel  drive.

I  don't  know the specs  on other  machines. That is why  I  suggest  checking  because although  the same  size  is  normal  all  the  way  around  but  if  a machine  for some reason  uses  differing ratios  it  can  cause  binding  and  breakage .

I would  guess  newer  machines   would  be the same all  around  but double check  yours  to  find out. It doesn't  hurt  and can save  grief  down the road .

 

Edited February 15, 2020 by davefrombc