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JacobSlabach

Honda Fourtrax bring back from the grave

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and the plastics arnt that good looking on this bike- i stitched them together with zip ties

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I was thinking about the Yamaha for some reason about the plastics. Me and you always seem to get into these long posts and I get mixed up with all the stuff we get into and cover.  All good stuff though! 

Take a look at the post I added regarding cdi boxes.  Sparked by another member. No pun intended. Some good info.   

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Yes sir and a long three weeks!  I will be off of the grid for the next 15 days or so I will try to check in from time to time but it will be difficult. 

 

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got the new fuel pump in and installed it between the actual gas tank, primed it, hooked it up to the carb and she ran great for about 5 mins than choked out like it was starving for gas and then i couldnt kickstart it...  i guessed that it was because it has an electric fuel pump and my battery is busted..  jumped it and the fuel pump starts leaking gas from itself (like the actual pump)  checked all hoses connected to it and none are leaking, just the pump itself which is brand new.  dont know what to do now...  first time working with an electric pump.. all i know is polaris vacuum pump..

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When you jumped the bike what do you use to jump it ? If you use a car battery the amperage is extremely high for something like that.  You can cause damage to the pump. Aside from that that if it were another atv you jumped it with then I would check all the gaskets on the pump , it’s possibly a defective pump. 

 

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Ummmm  Frank .  It doesn't matter what  size the battery is if the voltage is right.  The  pump will only  draw the current it needs to run;  no  matter  what  the  output current is available from the battery.  If the pump itself is leaking  it  is either  a gasket problem  or other defect in the pump.  Most  quads depend on the  battery somewhat to  stabilize the  voltages  in the circuit.  Without a battery  some  machines won't run  and it is also possible for   voltages   to  jump without the battery inline  to  help  regulate them. Find the cause of the fuel  pump leak  first  and then   try  running the  quad  with a battery installed,  even  if it  is  just  one connected  by jumper cables.  I'm  surprised the  early  Honda Fourtrax  had a fuel  pump..  My  '91  Fourtrax 300FW uses  gravity  feed to the  carb.

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Your right @davefrombc I didn’t word that correctly jumping from a car is the point I wanted to get across.  I agree the voltage is the same but the regulated amount of voltage could change going to the pump since a higher cca battery can throw the regulator and any other components on an atv into a tailspin if you would.  This is why stator coils burn can burn up as well when jumped from a car. So yes I agree if it were a stand alone battery it would be ok. 

 

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so i jumped it from the warrior..  didnt feel like rubbing in the 'polaris jumping a honda thing...'  jk.  @davefrombc the really old hondas have the gas tank under the seat beside the muffler (metal gas tank right beside the muffler doesnt sound smart to me but whatever..) and have to have a pump to get the gas up to the bowl.  air box takes the usual gas tank's spot on these bikes.  so i think you guys are right- i think the pump is defective.  i will contact ebay and try to get a replacement..  

i thought the issue was the battery when the bike ran dry first...maybe so but then when i jumped it and got it to run, the pump started to leak..

btw whats the best think to do with bad batteries?  Is there any way to fix them like getting new battery acid or any way to get any money from them?

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Dead  batteries can be recycled.  You  cannot   fix a battery that has gone bad either from sulphating  from  being left  uncharged or from  a shorted cell.  I  don't  know about your state ,  but here  recyclers  buy  dead batteries by the pound  for their  lead content.  I think  most dealers will  take the  dead battery  when they sell  you  a new one , and either credit you for the return  or at least  dispose  of it.  Again, I  imagine that varies state to state.

Don't believe any ads you  might see  for  "magic powders or liquids"  to  add to  your failing battery to  fix it ..   All  they  do  is separate you  from  some of your hard earned cash and do  zero  for the battery .

 

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This is a big thing here in my state with batteries now they charge you to take the old one away it’s a recycling fee.

The same has happened with the tires now. You get a tire change they charge you $5 bucks a tire for recycling now.  

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We  have recycling fees on everything you  buy that is  mechanical or electric/ electronic now . They  vary  in amount  according to the item .  Those fees are not  returnable but  on  such things that also  have a  deposit  like  beer,  liquor  and   soda bottles they  are refundable  when  the  empty  container is returned.  Some places pay  close to  the  recycling fee on batteries and depending on metal  markets the  amount they  pay  for a battery  may  exceed what  was charged  as a  "recycling"  fee.

Just a side note ..  I  had a number of old  car and  UPS  batteries   here that  I  turned in a couple of weeks ago.  It was worth the effort collecting them   and turning them  in . . I  got  $160  for the  lot .

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That’s a good piece of change to pick up for stuff laying around.   We have all the same stuff here and now as well as the electronics like TVs etc, we are entering an age of where we will have to pay 10 cents per plastic bag at the supermarket now starting September here.   

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