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Do You Use GPS For ATV Trails?


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22 hours ago, CJ River Rider said:

Recorded ride at AOAA in PA. Recorded on an older Garmin 400c that I bought at the time for the jetski. Just downloaded topo map as the unit came with a marine map preinstalled.

 

 

AOAA only provides their maps for using a gps is via the maprika app on phones, which I always do not like to use on the trails. (the phone that is) They do have paper maps at the trailhead, but I was able to get them to send me a PDF of the trail maps and now calibrated them so they can be uploaded into a GPS unit.  Here they are attached.

The western map is off on the left side, based on actual tracking data I have from riding the trails. I did my best to compensate, but changing to aerial view, shows the problem is their map, the tracks are right on the money with aerial view.

 

For other PA riders, I have calibrated maps for some of the state trails like Whiskey Springs, Bloody Skillet, Denton Hill (Potter County), and Dixon Miller. If anyone is interested, this website allows me to upload KMZ file.

 

 

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I usually use an IOS program called "Go Map!!" for marking new trails. Accuracy is better than other programs I have tested, but still nowhere near as accurate as even a cheap dedicated GPS for some reason. The convenient part is the app will make a GPX file that is directly uploadable to OpenStreetMap, which I find really handy for backwoods navigation. That site is free to use and you can access the data from many types of devices including iOS and android, including car GPSes based on the android OS. 

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I want to and plan to use GPS when I ride.  So far most places I have been to are marked courses and is very hard to get lost.  There is one that I plan to go to soon that is open trails in the woods type place with cabins so I plan to get one so we won't be getting lost.  don't want to end up on the news.  LOL.  I downloaded apps on my phone that you can download places off network in case you lose signal but I want to really use GPS and my phone as a back-up.  

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On 10/23/2016 at 5:51 PM, Ajmboy said:

Scubasonic, that Garmin Montana 650T that looks like no joke based on the features. I see some refurbished ones for under $400 but new the lowest I found was $499 on Amazon. Is the GPS accuracy of these handhelds vs a phone app that makes them better? I don't have one and am just curious.

Found on Garmin:

https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/into-sports/handheld/previous_models_handhelds/montana-650t/prod75228.html#gallery-dialog

 

cf-lg.jpgOk, I just purchASED on ebay a garmin gpsmap 62s for around 125 bucks. I'll post what I record trackwise and see if we can do anything with the file

 

 

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I have owned the Garmin Oregon 450t for several years now, it is an older version of the 650 you posted above. I originally purchased it for other activities but it has come in very useful for riding. The GPS sensors in it are better then any phone or tablet. I can typically get 12 to 16 hours of use from a set of batteries (mine takes 2-AA batteries) so carrying a spare set is easy. It has had water and mud splashed on it many times with no issues. I have owned this unit now for 8 years or more.

It allows recording tracks and marking waypoints which can be downloaded to a computer to save for future use. You can also upload tracks and points to it. The best feature is that you can upload custom maps to it. I have taken several maps of ATV trails and use them in the unit.

There is free software for it that can utilize the data it collects, I use a paid version which does allow more features but I also use this for other activities. You can also insert a micro-SD card to store maps and data. I use a 4 gig card which is more then enough storage space.

Note, the "T" part of the model number indicates it includes a 100K topo map of the entire USA.

Mike

 

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I may have GPS issues…

Where I live and ride most appliances and maps do not provide the forest service road numbers for the areas I ride. Most all of the trails and dirt roads out here are clearly marked, this disconnect has been a challenge for years. Below is a list of the different appliances and applications I have used over the years.

I now use the Avenza Maps application which is free. The maps for a specific area are free or low cost. I download my maps prior to going on a ride, and I can switch between the 2014 OHV map (free) which tells me where I can ride, but lacks any good topo info, to my 2017 Forest Service map (4.99) with a ton of topo detail, then to a historical topo map from 1896 (Free) that shows me old mines and other landmarks that the Forest service has been removing from their new maps The application will show my tracks on all of the maps. I use a ram mount for my iphone on the quad, and a ram mount for Ipad mini on the side by side

 

Garmin Maps on laptop with serial connected GPS

                Used in Truck to scout out hunting areas and plot out areas Elk were in.

 

Garmin Rino forget model number – A Pair of them

Great GPS and Ok Radio

More complicated then people who ride with me were willing to learn.

 

Motionx-GPS

Great Topo Maps

Street Maps

Offline Maps

Google Satellite Maps

Easy to share

Company has been around for many years, Good user interface.

 

GPS Kit

                Great Topo Maps

                Offline Maps

                Google Satellite Maps

                Also has Street Maps

                Easy to share

Second favorite app, down side for me no forest service Road Numbers.

 

Avenza

                Largest selection of Maps

Great Topo Maps

                Offline Maps

                Also has Street Maps

                Easy to share

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Would love to hear more about what you guys are using to mount the gps. Or are most just throwing it in the storage and getting it out when stopped? I have a couple of Garmin products (truck gps unit & Fenix watch) and have been really happy with them. I've been wanting to use something when riding too.

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I have a Garmin Montana 680t and was also using the Avenza maps as well until Trail Tech updated the Voyager Pro gps to use custom base maps. So now the Garmin has become a backup and the Avenza being pretty much moth balled. 

Having the custom basemaps you can use MVUM maps by making MBtiles maps. I use Caltopo for creating my maps and I can easily add boundary markers such as public land or even icons and such for point of reference and I also use it for creation of my routes. The Voyager Pro (VP) imports them effortlessly and the display is very easy to see even in bright sunlight. A few pictures shows the tile I created in red and its an enormous riding area (but small file) and the VP can load multiples of MBTiles at a time if need be. For example I created the entirety of the Black Hills SD MVUM trail system in just 1 MBTile file that the VP loaded with no issue.

I won't get into the other benefits of the VP due to this being a GPS thread but if some are interested I can create a review thread to showcase some of its other features. 

 

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The Voyager Pro GPS is easy to see in daylight and at a glance when I'm riding, either standing up or seated. It displayed just the info I need with multiple modes to choose from. My TRX700XX didn't come with any electronic gizmos or speedo so having the VP is a great addition to this bike. Just wanted to share a few more pics of it mounted on the quad

 

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